2008 gl1800 trunk latch failure


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2008 gl1800 trunk latch failure

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hello,
I own a 2008 GL1800 CSC Trike. I am looking for any help in getting into my trunk to find the part failure that is no longer allowing me to open my trunk. The latch to open the trunk just flops around and everything that I have found to help on the latch assembly starts with " open the trunk". The latch for what should be the saddlebag but is for the lower trunk on the trike has also failed, the only way to open it is by the emergency cable located under the battery cover " installed by CSC". So if there is some useful info anyone has to get into this puppy I would be really grateful !!

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The-legoman wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:27 pm hello,
I own a 2008 GL1800 CSC Trike. I am looking for any help in getting into my trunk to find the part failure that is no longer allowing me to open my trunk. The latch to open the trunk just flops around and everything that I have found to help on the latch assembly starts with " open the trunk". The latch for what should be the saddlebag but is for the lower trunk on the trike has also failed, the only way to open it is by the emergency cable located under the battery cover " installed by CSC". So if there is some useful info anyone has to get into this puppy I would be really grateful !!

Thanks in advance,
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I think the most inexpensive thing to do is break the lock by drilling the drum and replace it with a new one from the Trike manufacture.
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It's not the lock cylinder but the middle lever under the trunk. It just flops around so I'm assuming its one of the plastic rod holder end pieces that has broken allowing the rod to fall away from the lever. I have looked everywhere to find a solution and have found ZERO solutions !!!
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There is a bent wire solution for the 1500, perhaps there is something similar for the 1800? It might require that you have a functioning 1800 right next to it to compare and make a tool to reach into the latch.
Another option, if the trunk is empty, is to push the backrest pad to expose the lid and drill a small hole on each side to get a long screwdriver in to remove the two latch loops, from the lid. This might require a borescope camera to find them. Once the four screws are removed the lid will open and you can plug the holes you drilled. If lucky the pad will cover your holes, so the patch doesn't have to look perfect.
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Has CSC removed / disabled the ability to use the trunk button on the key fob? Sorry I don't have a trike.
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Is the trunk locked by the key or the fob ? If it is the center release kinda flops there. Unlock the trunk with the key or fob and see if that works. If not you can bend a hook in a piece of wire and go up under and release the mechanism.
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This trick to electrically unlock a trunk for an 1800 Golding bike, may or may not help your situation, but I think it cannot hurt to try.


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Tells how to bend and use the hook. There maybe others in there but that is as far as I got before adding it here.


1. Bend a 180 degree hook in one end with about a 1/2 inch radius.

2. measure down 8 inches from the hook and bend 90 degrees. this "arm" should be in line with the hook. This not only governs how far the wire goes in but also lets you tell which way the hook is pointing.

Ok, here's where luck comes in. The trunk latches are actuated by a rod that runs across the inside of the trunk at about the same height as the key lock. It connects the center lever and the key to the actual latches. You're going to catch this rod with your hook and pull down.

3. Under the trunk where the three levers are; Insert the hook between the left saddlebag lever and the trunk lever, towards the rear of the slot. Go in until about one inch of the coat hanger is still out with the bend pointing to the rear. Picture this, the hook is seven inches in the trunk at the back and pointing to the rear.

4. Work it around and feel for the rod, anything the hook catches on is worth a pull. You have to pull a little hard but not hard enough to straighten the hook out. Sometimes the trunk is a little hard to open due to gasket pressure on the latches, if you think you are pulling on the rod but the trunk won't pop, try putting a little pressure down on the lid to relieve the pressure on the latches. This usually is not necessary.
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If it helps, I stole this picture from FB. It's the rear latch mechanism. The white arrow points to a rod. Yours is probably not connected.
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This is a great help !!! thank you for the pic. Maybe a letter to Honda on the troubles facing owners out there that this is something to be addressed. thanks again hopefully I have some success, otherwise I have found a full trunk online ( in the right color too ) for 550.00 so if this doesn't work out I can always buy another trunk !!!
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Just a quick note to thank everyone on their words of wisdom and humor on the situation of the trunk latch mechanism. I will also be drafting a letter to Honda on the clusterf*#k of not having a way to reach and repair the latch mechanism if there is a catastrophic failure of parts in the assembly. Thanks again everyone Enjoy the Ride !!!
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Please let know if you get it open and how you did it.
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I will hopefully not to much cussing involved!!
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Since the trunk was designed to be secure, there is not much Honda could do that would not be a security risk. While yours may have failed in one incident, usually there is some warning that the latch is not behaving properly, and that is the time to fix it before it fails. I have seen that in a bunch of things where people wait until there is a complete failure rather than getting it corrected when the first signs appear.
The best example I can think of is older Mercedes ignition lock cylinders. They get finicky months before they fail. We would change them for free if the customer brought it in when it would still work as it took less than a minute to remove them. We even kept loaner cylinders to get them by while waiting for a key matched new one from Germany. However, once it failed and the car came in on a hook, it would be several hundred dollars to extract the bad cylinder as the whole column had to be torn down and hardened security fasteners machined out.
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Rambozo wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:39 pm Since the trunk was designed to be secure, there is not much Honda could do that would not be a security risk.
Yes ... I don't get the letter thing also; however, everyone has to choose their battles and apparently he's drawing the line on this one.
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You haven't mentioned yet if you have made sure you have it unlocked with the key. Push up on the center lever and hold it up while you turn the key to the right. If that does unlock and the lever works to open the trunk and lower trunk again, there is a spring missing or busted in the assembly.
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Success!! I had a set of picks from Home Depot that I have never used 10 seconds later and pop she opened. Pick yourself up a set gentlemen ! Just to clarify a few things 1. I had zero warning on the levers everything was working perfectly so don’t assume that since it works it ain’t broke or beginning to break. 2. Honda could design an access panel behind the passenger backrest if they put it on keyhole slots and 2 or4 screws below the level of the full seat cushion. That way it takes the security risk out of the equation. That way you would have to remove both passenger handles and then remove the seat and then the backrest and panel and undo the the latch pieces. Seems like an awful lot to go thru to steal some crap out of someone’s trunk. If this trunk wouldn’t have opened and you had to buy OEM parts this little trunk will set you back way more than a $1000.00. Helluva lot a money for us working folk when it seems to me a slight design change could save anyone who has this happen to them a lot of time and money. Just sayin’ Oh the pick set was a twenty dollar bill.

Anyway thanks to everyone for your help and everyone take a copy of the above pic from GoldwingerGreg it could come in handy some day. I printed a copy and put it in my maintenance file.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-Hook- ... /311856637
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Good to hear you were able to get it open, any thoughts on what actually happened to cause the issue? Something that needs to be taken care of to ensure it does not happen again?
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The-legoman wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:03 pm Success!! I had a set of picks from Home Depot that I have never used 10 seconds later and pop she opened. Pick yourself up a set gentlemen ! Just to clarify a few things 1. I had zero warning on the levers everything was working perfectly so don’t assume that since it works it ain’t broke or beginning to break. 2. Honda could design an access panel behind the passenger backrest if they put it on keyhole slots and 2 or4 screws below the level of the full seat cushion. That way it takes the security risk out of the equation. That way you would have to remove both passenger handles and then remove the seat and then the backrest and panel and undo the the latch pieces. Seems like an awful lot to go thru to steal some crap out of someone’s trunk. If this trunk wouldn’t have opened and you had to buy OEM parts this little trunk will set you back way more than a $1000.00. Helluva lot a money for us working folk when it seems to me a slight design change could save anyone who has this happen to them a lot of time and money. Just sayin’ Oh the pick set was a twenty dollar bill.

Anyway thanks to everyone for your help and everyone take a copy of the above pic from GoldwingerGreg it could come in handy some day. I printed a copy and put it in my maintenance file.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-Hook- ... /311856637
Great....

But.....
You need to share how to do it more than those few words. How did you get from the passenger backrest to the lock assembly on the back of the trunk. Did you cut a hole big enough for your hand to get to the lock mechanism?
Pictures would help.
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newday777 wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:12 am
But.....
You need to share how to do it more than those few words. How did you get from the passenger backrest to the lock assembly on the back of the trunk. Did you cut a hole big enough for your hand to get to the lock mechanism?
Pictures would help.
It sounds like the OP picked the lock. If so he then didn't have a latch problem, he has a key/lock cylinder issues. But if that is true, why did the remove not unlock it ???
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GoldWingrGreg wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:01 am
newday777 wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:12 am
But.....
You need to share how to do it more than those few words. How did you get from the passenger backrest to the lock assembly on the back of the trunk. Did you cut a hole big enough for your hand to get to the lock mechanism?
Pictures would help.
It sounds like the OP picked the lock. If so he then didn't have a latch problem, he has a key/lock cylinder issues. But if that is true, why did the remove not unlock it ???
It sounds to me like the OP used the picks to manipulate the latching mechanism to release the trunk lid. I can only assume that is why he recommended everyone take a copy of the above pic from GoldwingerGreg because it could come in handy some day. He said he printed a copy and put it in his maintenance file.
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Yes you have to use a pick and go thru the space between the left saddle bag lever and the trunk lever. It takes a few minutes of fumbling around to get it but have patience you will get it. I haven’t pulled anything apart yet but my assumption is that the plastic rod ends failed and the rod fell out of the lever hole. Similar to old Ford style lock mechanisms in their doors. I removed the trunk strikers for now until I can get the time to disassemble the trunk and buy new parts.


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