Sticking button, Highgway lights. Spray to use?


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Sticking button, Highgway lights. Spray to use?

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I have some very nice driving lights, or Highway Lights or Fog Lights as some are called, but the famous "sticking" of the dash button causes the lights to be On at all times. It seems from other threads this "stuck button" problem is common, and often solved through the use of CDC electrical spray. I've tried the CDC spray a couple of times, but still no luck in getting the Button to pop out, which would then turn the lights off.

This is not much of a real problem, of course, because the lights in the "On" position is certainly a great safety feature. Still, I'd like to turn them off in town. It would seem to me that the charging system would be less stressed, too, if the lights weren't on all of the time.

I do not want to disassemble the button assembly, but instead find a different spray or solvent that may solve the problem without wrecking whatever is behind that button shield. Anyone else used a different spray or solvent to correct the "Sticking Button" problem? Any help, as always, appreciated. Thank You.


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A fellow rider here in FL had a similar issue, he used just regular canned air to free his, just sprayed it in the gap around the edges of the button bezel. Seems that sometimes it is just dry dirt and what not that makes them stick. Could also try running a thin piece of plastic or maybe shipping tape folded over on itself (sticky side to sticky side) and run that around the button in the gap between the bezel and the dash panel.
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Thanks for the suggestion on freeing up "the Sticking Button" situation! The "canned air" (similar to the product used to clean laptops) worked!
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LK1LK1 wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 8:21 am Thanks for the suggestion on freeing up "the Sticking Button" situation! The "canned air" (similar to the product used to clean laptops) worked!
Spraying air and lube in the gaps will not fix the issue. If you open the switch assembly, you will see why. The actual switch is well protected by being placed at least 1/2" in and it's even capped for add'l protection. I've never even seen a dirty one. However, what probably worked in the above example is that the switch was being pushed on. That add'l effort can free them. What causes them to stick is the lube Honda uses inside the switch itself becomes gummy and sticky over time. Some will open the switch assembly, remove the switch, clean it, inspect it, lube it with an electrical switch lube, and reassemble them. Here, at JustWings, the only switch we'll service is the 4-way switch. The only reason the 4-way switch is treated different then the other four (mute, cruise-control, reverse, and fog lamps) is because it is removable with very little effort, and the switch can be service when disconnected from the Wing. To do mute, cruise-control, or reverse, requires hanging upside down, with your tung hanging just right to service those, so the entire switch assembly is replace. A fog lamp switch is not worth servicing, just replace it ... they are like $37.
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GoldWingrGreg wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 12:42 pm
LK1LK1 wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 8:21 am Thanks for the suggestion on freeing up "the Sticking Button" situation! The "canned air" (similar to the product used to clean laptops) worked!
Spraying air and lube in the gaps will not fix the issue. If you open the switch assembly, you will see why. The actual switch is well protected by being placed at least 1/2" in and it's even capped for add'l protection. I've never even seen a dirty one. However, what probably worked in the above example is that the switch was being pushed on. That add'l effort can free them. What causes them to stick is the lube Honda uses inside the switch itself becomes gummy and sticky over time. Some will open the switch assembly, remove the switch, clean it, inspect it, lube it with an electrical switch lube, and reassemble them. Here, at JustWings, the only switch we'll service is the 4-way switch. The only reason the 4-way switch is treated different then the other four (mute, cruise-control, reverse, and fog lamps) is because it is removable with very little effort, and the switch can be service when disconnected from the Wing. To do mute, cruise-control, or reverse, requires hanging upside down, with your tung hanging just right to service those, so the entire switch assembly is replace. A fog lamp switch is not worth servicing, just replace it ... they are like $37.
Dare I guess this is one situation where you do NOT recommend replacing the OEM lubricant, so you recommend replacing the entire OEM assembly? :D
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tamathumper wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 2:59 pm
GoldWingrGreg wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 12:42 pm
LK1LK1 wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 8:21 am Thanks for the suggestion on freeing up "the Sticking Button" situation! The "canned air" (similar to the product used to clean laptops) worked!
Spraying air and lube in the gaps will not fix the issue. If you open the switch assembly, you will see why. The actual switch is well protected by being placed at least 1/2" in and it's even capped for add'l protection. I've never even seen a dirty one. However, what probably worked in the above example is that the switch was being pushed on. That add'l effort can free them. What causes them to stick is the lube Honda uses inside the switch itself becomes gummy and sticky over time. Some will open the switch assembly, remove the switch, clean it, inspect it, lube it with an electrical switch lube, and reassemble them. Here, at JustWings, the only switch we'll service is the 4-way switch. The only reason the 4-way switch is treated different then the other four (mute, cruise-control, reverse, and fog lamps) is because it is removable with very little effort, and the switch can be service when disconnected from the Wing. To do mute, cruise-control, or reverse, requires hanging upside down, with your tung hanging just right to service those, so the entire switch assembly is replace. A fog lamp switch is not worth servicing, just replace it ... they are like $37.
Dare I guess this is one situation where you do NOT recommend replacing the OEM lubricant, so you recommend replacing the entire OEM assembly? :D
Oh, they are repairable. Time consuming, but it can be done.

Be careful about the "Jesus" spring. Disassembly is best done inside a clear plastic bag to keep you from using that word as an epithet if that spring decides to abandon ship.

There's a couple of videos on YT that describe the process. A guy from Canada shows the process on a hazard switch - they work the same way as the cruise control switch.

Moving every switch a few times about once a month keeps that from happening.
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tamathumper wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 2:59 pm
Dare I guess this is one situation where you do NOT recommend replacing the OEM lubricant, so you recommend replacing the entire OEM assembly? :D
If possible, here at JustWings, we remove, inspect, clean, and lube many 4-ways switches. If they have pick marks on the outside, the customer is warned that internal damage might have been done. Pick marks is often evidence of someone trying to get the switch turned off. Foglamp swatches are not worth the effort in lubing ... just replace it ... they are only $37 bucks. If there are problems with any of the rest of the switches, the switch assembly is replaced. Switch assemblies, and fog lamp switches, are all kept in stock.

In the OP ... he needs a new fog lamp switch.


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