Goldwing gremlins


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Shadowwalker
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Goldwing gremlins

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I have a 02 goldwing. The turn signals stoped working but the hazards are still working. I got another controller but that didn’t fix the problem and now the bike won’t start. It keeps turning over but won’t catch. Any suggestions would help thanks.


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Welcome to the forum.

Not sure what controller you are referring to. Have you switched back to the original one? Have you checked the path you took to replace this part and ensured that electrical connectors are all tight?
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I took it to a shop and had the owner go over it. All connections are tight, it has a new battery, no I did not put the original signal light housing back on. The radio volume control and channel control stoped working.
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Shadowwalker wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:37 pm I have a 02 goldwing. The turn signals stoped working but the hazards are still working. I got another controller but that didn’t fix the problem and now the bike won’t start. It keeps turning over but won’t catch. Any suggestions would help thanks.
What all did you remove to replace the control pod? Did you replace the control with new or used and was it the correct one for your model year? What was your exact symptom before the change?
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I had the shop change everything over. Yes he retraced his steps and checked the wires, all seemed ok. Originally the turn signals stopped working. Due to the radio volume and station selection stoped working I decided to replace the whole housing. Thinking the turn signal switch was bad. Now the bike won’t start. It just turns over. Their is no spark no fire.
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Shadowwalker wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:18 am I had the shop change everything over. Yes he retraced his steps and checked the wires, all seemed ok. Originally the turn signals stopped working. Due to the radio volume and station selection stoped working I decided to replace the whole housing. Thinking the turn signal switch was bad. Now the bike won’t start. It just turns over. Their is no spark no fire.
Ok, is the bike still at the shop? When you turn on the key, does the FI light come on for about 2 seconds? If you turn on the cruise control system and the key, does the orange cruise light come on?
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No I have the bike is back at the house. The F1 light does not come on at all. The cruse light doesn’t come on when engaged.
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Shadowwalker wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:16 pm No I have the bike is back at the house. The F1 light does not come on at all. The cruse light doesn’t come on when engaged.
Ok, someone left the bank angle sensor unplugged. It’s mounted to the rear of the right headlight assembly and has a three pin connector that needs to be located and plugged in. You can reach it from the front, up the fork tunnel, hopefully they didn’t bury the harness and the connector up under the shelter. This should get it running again. Without the BAS plugged in, the FI/ignition relay won’t have its ground to energize, so the FI system will have no power to operate. The cruise system is also affected by not having any power as well. Let me know if the turn signals and everything else is working after you get it running. The turn signals are a complex system and the problem may not have been the switch assembly.
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Thanks for the advice I’ll be checking it out tomorrow after work
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Techdude2000 thanks for the advice, you were spot on with the bank angle sensor. It now starts and purrs like a kitten. The only issue now it the signal lights are still not working. The hazard lights are working. As before your advice is greatly appreciated.
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Shadowwalker wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 9:52 am Techdude2000 thanks for the advice, you were spot on with the bank angle sensor. It now starts and purrs like a kitten. The only issue now it the signal lights are still not working. The hazard lights are working. As before your advice is greatly appreciated.
Glad to hear she’s running again. The turn signals are activated by the switch grounding a pink wire that runs to the cancel unit. The cancel unit then grounds a wire that runs to the flasher, which turns it on. We know the flasher is good because your hazards work and it’s shared by both systems. Hopefully, this is just a bad connection at the cancel unit’s connector because the cancel unit is pricey for what it does. The cancel unit is inside the steering stem and it’s connector is on the top of the stem under a rubber cover. It’s a small green 7 pin connector and is hard to reconnect if any work is done to the front end that requires it disconnected. When the signal switch is pushed left or right, the pink wire at the switch is grounded, this goes through C24, it’s a 12 pin green connector, then through C25, it’s a smaller 6 pin gray connector before getting to the cancel unit’s little green connector. Both C25 and C24 are in the white frame under the right side fairing pocket. Rain can drip from the vent above onto these connectors and cause corrosion in this area. You can take a test light and connect it to the positive battery terminal and then probe the pink wire at the connectors for ground when you push the switch left or right. Let me know what you find.
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Techdude2000 again thanks for the information. I’ll be trying this on my next day off. I’ll let you know what I find.
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Shadowwalker wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:44 pm Techdude2000 again thanks for the information. I’ll be trying this on my next day off. I’ll let you know what I find.
Any luck yet?
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No not yet. I have been working and haven’t had any time to take the front end back off to check it
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Shadowwalker wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 4:02 pm No not yet. I have been working and haven’t had any time to take the front end back off to check it
Ok, you can reach the connectors under the fairing pocket by just removing the pocket, but it is easier if you remove the shelter. The fairing can stay in place. Getting to C7, the little green connector is tough with the gauge assembly in place. Please keep us posted.
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Ok. Again thanks for that information. I’ll keep you informed.
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Ok I need help. I’m removed the right side pocket but can’t seem to find the pink wire.
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Shadowwalker wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:40 am Ok I need help. I’m removed the right side pocket but can’t seem to find the pink wire.
It’s a little easier to see them with the whole shelter removed.

Here’s a picture of C25’s location.

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Here’s a picture of the other connectors. Ignore my added colored arrows.

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