How to replace your universal joint (and driveshaft)


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Re: How to replace your universal joint (and driveshaft)

Post by Swagonmaster » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:46 pm



kiptap, I can feel your pain, that boot replacement can be something that you don't want your kids to hear you talking about. :evil: I will give one recommendation, warm the rubber boot! I am a retired auto tech so I thought it wouldn't be too hard to do. Wrong! After several frustrating hours of trying I brought the boot indoors and put it on the hot air register (December you know) and got it hot. When I took it out to the garage for another round I couldn't believe how much easier it was to go on! Actually I thought that I had it on wrong, it couldn't have gone on that easy!
Secondly, if your are having trouble splinning the driveshaft into the u joint, take the driven flange/spider and turn the final drive and therefore the driveshaft while installing the shaft.



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Re: How to replace your universal joint (and driveshaft)

Post by Swagonmaster » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:50 pm

Another thing, I replaced the u joint because of a vibration above about 60 mph. As it turned out the joint was ok, the problem was the rubber dampers in the rear wheel. Oh well, live and learn.

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Re: How to replace your universal joint (and driveshaft)

Post by Erdeniz Umman » Sat Dec 30, 2017 8:45 am

One more recommendation for the boot replacement could be removing the wires and brake light switch out of the way.

So you can easily reach the 3 ears of the boot and install it in 5 minutes. No pain anymore.

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Re: How to replace your universal joint (and driveshaft)

Post by Jetfighter3 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:03 am

Two things, first you say you should not apply grease on the five pin configuration , but my Honda Manual says too. Do you know something Honda doesn't or at least at the time of the publication of the manual? Also in one of the photos of the five pin config. it appears there is grease on the pins? Could you get back to me on this, I'm about to put her back together. And 2nd, for those of you about to do this chore I used Aerospace 303 protectint on the boot , sprayed it down stuck it in a plastic bag for 24 hours and when I was ready to install it , it only took about 5 min. went on so easy! and the boot should last for some time with the 303 on it. ( check it out on youtube)

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Re: How to replace your universal joint (and driveshaft)

Post by MikeB » Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:19 am

According to The Wrench, published by Honda America to Honda technicians, the 5 pin drive flange should not be lubricated.
Only lube the 6 pin drive flange pins.


As to the use of the 303 protectant, it really isn't all that necessary. It is probably a good thing because it makes it slippery but not a necessary step. Silicone spray did the trick for me.
The boots that I have seen or heard about have not failed due from deterioration or exposure to the elements. How I have seen or heard of them failing is from contact with the universal joint. On my 1999 and 1998 GL1500, that was the case. Other than the damage from the universal joint, the rubber was sound.

An article in Wing World magazine confirms this information concerning the flange pins.
It is located here: http://archives.wingworldmag.com/januar ... cally.html
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Re: How to replace your universal joint (and driveshaft)

Post by Jetfighter3 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:03 pm

Great info! Do you know where we can get all the amendments to the out dated information we get from our manuals? Some thing like we are discussing should be available to the home mechanic , I was ready to put lube on the pins but questioned it when seeing post. Had I not looked I would have made that mistake.

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Re: How to replace your universal joint (and driveshaft)

Post by MikeB » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:33 pm

Unfortunately, I do not have a source for any of the outdated info.
As Stu Oltman said, the GWRRA tech department has a pile of info but I don't know how to get it published.
Perhaps someone here can provide a source.
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Re: How to replace your universal joint (and driveshaft)

Post by WingAdmin » Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:06 pm

My Honda Service Manual says the exact same thing:

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Re: How to replace your universal joint (and driveshaft)

Post by Erdeniz Umman » Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:49 pm

I think the confusion is because of the unupdated picture on page 15-14 of the service manual.
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Re: How to replace your universal joint (and driveshaft)

Post by BENJEE2112 » Fri Apr 19, 2019 3:56 pm

To anyone like me needing to do this. Today I went in a mission to find the 17MM allan socket driver. after all the box stores and hardware stores I was about to give up. But just for the heck of it. I stopped at our NEW TO MY AREA (woo-hooo) Harbor Freight Store. Found the entire set for $13.89 I haven't abused it yet. But I was expecting to pay around $20 just for the one 17mm. this is 4-17mm. I'll let you know if my impact gun or breaker bar kills it or cranks it. they are shiny chrome. Just dark in my office rite now.



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Re: How to replace your universal joint (and driveshaft)

Post by BENJEE2112 » Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:31 pm

I just ordered my new u-joint and boot From Partzilla $160.00 for both. I damaged my u-joint trying to put the final drive back on. I somehow jammed it stuck. I don't do anything half way. Including screwing stuff up. I hope I didn't hurt anything else. I guess I'll find out when it's all back together. After looking around I saw that My Boot was dry rotted. The bike has over 100,000, now it will have new joints and socks. This is what I saw when I took it back off.





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