Lucas oil stabilizer safe in Gl1500 engine oil?


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Lucas oil stabilizer safe in Gl1500 engine oil?

Post by NOVAwing » Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:04 am



Hey guys,

I know what oil goes in the GL1500, using Walmart Supertech 15w40 right now.

However, I run Lucas oil stabilizer in all my 4 wheel vehicles.
Best stuff in the universe, makes any oil, super oil!

Will this hurt the GL1500?
I figure it must have friction modifiers to do what it does, but I have not looked into it in detail.

Anyone already have experience with this?

I really want to use it in the Wing, should make it alot more quiet also.


Please share any advice.

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Re: Lucas oil stabilizer safe in Gl1500 engine oil?

Post by curtm » Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:43 am

Well, we don't use oil with friction modifiers because of the clutches, makes sense to me not to use the stuff, Because it probably has modifiers in it
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Re: Lucas oil stabilizer safe in Gl1500 engine oil?

Post by themainviking » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:42 am

If the Lucas bottle does not have a label statement saying it has no friction modifiers, or that it is JASO MA/MA2 certified, I would not use it.
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Re: Lucas oil stabilizer safe in Gl1500 engine oil?

Post by CrystalPistol » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:32 am

Your 4 wheel vehicles have automatic transmissions or manuals with dry clutches.

The Gold Wing has a wet clutch bathed in engine oil, I would not run the Lucas in my GL.
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Re: Lucas oil stabilizer safe in Gl1500 engine oil?

Post by WingAdmin » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:20 am

themainviking wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:42 am
If the Lucas bottle does not have a label statement saying it has no friction modifiers, or that it is JASO MA/MA2 certified, I would not use it.
I spent a bit of time trying to figure out exactly what IS in the stuff. Even the MSDS doesn't state its contents, beyond "flammable petroleum products."

Nowhere on its marketing, product page, or any other material could I find any mention of exactly HOW it works, or what it actually is - all I could find were a bunch of unsubstantiated claims about how wonderful it was, and how it increases oil life (how?!?!).

I wouldn't be putting that stuff in my oil.

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Re: Lucas oil stabilizer safe in Gl1500 engine oil?

Post by NOVAwing » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:31 am

Thanks for the feedback everyone.

I to could not find any information on what exactly is in this product.
It seems they will not tell anyone.

Their label makes no mention of the JASO MA/MA2 certifications, or friction modifiers.

I assume it has some in it, so I will not use it in the wing.

That's a dam shame. I have been using this stuff for decades, and have spent a lot of time with their reps and at demos.

The stuff is magic, it works, and very well, better then anything else on the market.
In independent tests I have read, they are always tops, or 2nd, for most of their products.

Stabilizer is especially good at fixing noisy/stuck lifters and valves. Increases oil life, and durability.

I don't know what's in it, but it goes in all my vehicles and does a body good!

Worked amazingly in my 550hp turbo modified Mitsubishi Eclipse.
My Toyota 4runner.
My Wife's Lexus GS300
My old Chevy Corsica
My kids Honda Accords, and Toyota Corolla.
Wife's new Honda

Try for yourself, or don't, it's all good.

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Re: Lucas oil stabilizer safe in Gl1500 engine oil?

Post by 1anderlikj » Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:16 pm

Reading up on the history, Mr. Lucas made the stuff in his kitchen somehow. As far as I can tell, it's just really thick oil, probably super filtered or refined, similar to chainsaw bar & chain oil. Will likely affect clutch performance, probably make it not want to release well do to high shear strength/resistance.
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Re: Lucas oil stabilizer safe in Gl1500 engine oil?

Post by FM-USA » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:52 pm

You were looking for info from those who use Lucas Oil Stabilizer in their Wings oil.
I have been for about 6 years now in my 1991 1500. Started using it around 120k miles when the temps got near 100-F*
I DON'T have a slipping clutch.
I pull 1K+ trailers while using it.
BUT, I use 1 - 2 oz only. Like others said no one is sure whats in it.
I've used that wally-tech oil, it breaks down WAY too quick due to the trans gears.

Delo 15w40 works, many here use it. It's a couple bucks more, lasts at least twice as long as Super-Tech.
The 2.5 gal jug is most cost efficient, esp. when on sale.

BTW: My Wing has 250,000 on the OEM clutch and it's still grabbing just fine.

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Re: Lucas oil stabilizer safe in Gl1500 engine oil?

Post by 1anderlikj » Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:24 pm

I like the testimonial by FM-USA, it really says a lot about Lucas (of course everyone already knows it's a quality product). Thanks for the info. I'd be curious if anyone had a negative experience.

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Re: Lucas oil stabilizer safe in Gl1500 engine oil?

Post by FM-USA » Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:32 pm

I HAVE TO ADD a missed point.
I have not heard of anyone getting clutch slippage using it. But why take the EXPENSIVE chance, use it sparingly.

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Re: Lucas oil stabilizer safe in Gl1500 engine oil?

Post by CrystalPistol » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:52 pm

NOVAwing wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:31 am
... etc ...
Sounds / reads like you had already decided then .... and I agree ... it is maybe (likely even) good stuff in most engine oils ...
... just not the best choice with wet clutches.

Certainly, the fact that many have used it thusly with no problems speaks well for the robust nature of the Gold Wing, it doesn't speak to the additive being good for a wet clutch.
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Re: Lucas oil stabilizer safe in Gl1500 engine oil?

Post by TwoTone Trike » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:25 am

NOVAwing, I looked at the Lucas synthetic oil stabilizer and it states on the bottle that for four stroke motorcycles with wet clutches to use 10% of the synthetic stabilizer. Hope this helps. But the choice is yours to make.

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Re: Lucas oil stabilizer safe in Gl1500 engine oil?

Post by NOVAwing » Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:24 am

Very interesting feedback from everyone.

Thank you for that.

Nice to see some one using it with no ill effects.

I will switch to the better Delo oil first. Non synthetic.

Then perhaps later try to add tiny bit of LOS.

Engine is just noisy on this bike.

Probably the cheap oil I started with as was mentioned.

What specific oil do I want in non synthetic for the Delo?

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Re: Lucas oil stabilizer safe in Gl1500 engine oil?

Post by FM-USA » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:45 am

Synthetic Delo 15w40 should work fine and should last a little longer. Hence justifying the higher cost.
I'd use it but have a 20 gallon stock of dino-Delo due to "On Sale Now" promos.
BTW: Mixing dino & synth is OK.
I 😒accidentally used 5w20...wow the noise. Quickly changed it.
That was over 100k miles ago. It caused no harm... I take it.

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Re: Lucas oil stabilizer safe in Gl1500 engine oil?

Post by NOVAwing » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:31 am

FM-USA wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:45 am
Synthetic Delo 15w40 should work fine and should last a little longer. Hence justifying the higher cost.
I'd use it but have a 20 gallon stock of dino-Delo due to "On Sale Now" promos.
BTW: Mixing dino & synth is OK.
I 😒accidentally used 5w20...wow the noise. Quickly changed it.
That was over 100k miles ago. It caused no harm... I take it.

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Thanks for the info FM.

I prefer to use standard oil for older machines that haven't used synthetic from birth already.

From my car mechanic training/experience, switching to synthetic oil later in life provides almost no benefits as the oil cannot bond to the already worn and standard oil bonded metal. Also it often causes or exacerbates leaks.

I will go with the regular Delo 15w40 for now.

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Re: Lucas oil stabilizer safe in Gl1500 engine oil?

Post by FM-USA » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:09 pm

Understandable about the leak potential.
Bonding really shouldn't matter since the moving parts are in suspension.

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Re: Lucas oil stabilizer safe in Gl1500 engine oil?

Post by mikelens » Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:16 pm

Am I the only one who's bottle reads : for wet clutches use a max of 10% of capacity?

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Re: Lucas oil stabilizer safe in Gl1500 engine oil?

Post by FM-USA » Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:57 pm

mikelens wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:16 pm
Am I the only one who's bottle reads : for wet clutches use a max of 10% of capacity?
Earlier today I went out & looked at mine.... .. . yup, says that too.
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Re: Lucas oil stabilizer safe in Gl1500 engine oil?

Post by TwoTone Trike » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:02 pm

Read seven post before yours. You'll see that I've already posted that information. Honestly do you all ever read any of the other post?

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Re: Lucas oil stabilizer safe in Gl1500 engine oil?

Post by FM-USA » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:31 pm

TWOTONE TRIKE...
I seen that but how you wrote it stated to use 10% mix, not use a max mix of 10%.
Not pick'n, just say'n.

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Re: Lucas oil stabilizer safe in Gl1500 engine oil?

Post by TwoTone Trike » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:44 pm

F-M, Not a problem. I just wrote it as it was written on the bottle. It's a good product though. I also run Lucas 10w40 in my 99se Hannigan trike. Have a good day.

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Re: Lucas oil stabilizer safe in Gl1500 engine oil?

Post by FM-USA » Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:58 pm

TwoTone Trike wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:44 pm
F-M, Not a problem. I just wrote it as it was written on the bottle. It's a good product though. I also run Lucas 10w40 in my 99se Hannigan trike. Have a good day.
OH GOOD...WW3 averted... again.
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Re: Lucas oil stabilizer safe in Gl1500 engine oil?

Post by TwoTone Trike » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:09 pm

F-M, Whew that was a close one. :D :D :D



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