Hot legs, is this normal? (I am not a woman lol)


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Hot legs, is this normal? (I am not a woman lol)

Post by NOVAwing » Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:54 am



Hi everyone.

I have been enjoying my bike, as the hot days allow.

Something that's been bothering me and now I want to ask about it.

I have a 1993 Aspencade.
No CB.
No front air forks.
It seems I DO have feet heaters.......


I did see a hose when I did the timing belt.
I have levers on the lower air vents in the cockpit.
The levers never stay up, which is the cool air position.
They constantly fall down as I ride, switching to hot air output.


Even with them up, and the vents pushed down closed, my shins and ankles are being COOKED with hot air in general, cant really tell where it is coming from.
This happens when moving only.

I wear shorts when I ride, road rash be dammed, its been 90F+ here and VERY humid all summer in Virginia. Most days the feels like temps are 103F+

Can anyone give me some idea, whats going on, and how to get rid of this heat on my legs? If it was winter I might not mind, but this is so hot is almost burns my legs, its painful sometimes, this can't be normal.

Thanks for any feed back you can offer.

NOVAwing


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Re: Hot legs, is this normal? (I am not a woman lol)

Post by RBGERSON » Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:19 am

highway pegs/boards other wise you cook..
HAD LOTS OF GOLDWING 75-83
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Re: Hot legs, is this normal? (I am not a woman lol)

Post by Earl43P » Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:09 am

Possible that the cool air duct tubes aren’t properly connected. When I replaced my transmission cover, it was a bit tricky to get that ducting in place to install the lower fairings.

My selector also occasionally creeps from cool to hot, but I only notice it if I don’t wear my riding pants. ATGATT for the win.

I also keep my engine guard mounted highway boards angled about halfway between stowed and fully deployed, using them as air deflectors since I NEVER use them otherwise. Makes a difference!
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Re: Hot legs, is this normal? (I am not a woman lol)

Post by bellboy40 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:17 am

The levers on my air ducts were also creeping back down when I got mine. When I had the lower fairing panels off I noticed that the lever pivot point was loose. It is just a crosspoint screw holding it and if you tighten it up a bit the lever will stay in position.

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Re: Hot legs, is this normal? (I am not a woman lol)

Post by CrystalPistol » Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:54 am

I wear jeans & boots, I don't get cooked.
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Re: Hot legs, is this normal? (I am not a woman lol)

Post by WingAdmin » Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:19 pm

The engine gets rid of heat by dumping it into the ambient air via radiators. To do so, it heats up the ambient air a certain amount. When it's 60 degrees, the air coming out of the radiator vents might be 90 or 95 degrees, which bare skin will tolerate very easily.

When it's 90 degrees, the air coming out of the radiator vents can be 130 degrees or more - this is more than enough to actually cook your flesh! You can end up with second and third degree burns on your legs.

The solution is to wear protective gear over your legs. But that's your choice.

You might try a set of wind wings to direct the heat out away from your legs, or to bring more cool air in to offset the heated air.

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Re: Hot legs, is this normal? (I am not a woman lol)

Post by RockportDave » Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:04 pm

Here in South Texas we get a lot of hot and humid days on the coast.
I wear riding boots, jeans and mesh jacket.
My toe warmers stay closed and I have wind wings on the sides to funnel cool air on my legs and lower body. I also have a windshield vent which helps the upper body a lot.
I had the fairing lowers off and tightened the screws for the lower heat vents to keep them from opening.
While rebuilding the carbs and checking vacuum lines, I replaced the engine heat rubber that goes over the intakes. It helps keep the heat down.
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Re: Hot legs, is this normal? (I am not a woman lol)

Post by dingdong » Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:30 am

Riding with shorts on and complaining about hot legs reminds me of that old Henny Youngman joke. (Yeah I'm old) Patient: Doctor it hurts when I do this. Doctor: Then don't do that!
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Re: Hot legs, is this normal? (I am not a woman lol)

Post by NOVAwing » Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:36 am

RBGERSON wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:19 am
highway pegs/boards other wise you cook..
Interesting, this is a planned add on once I replace the dumb stock engine guards with ones that allow for my legs to go forward lol.

Between those and the boards, that's like over $300 worth of parts, will have to do in stages over time.

Thanks,
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Re: Hot legs, is this normal? (I am not a woman lol)

Post by NOVAwing » Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:38 am

Earl43P wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:09 am
Possible that the cool air duct tubes aren’t properly connected. When I replaced my transmission cover, it was a bit tricky to get that ducting in place to install the lower fairings.

My selector also occasionally creeps from cool to hot, but I only notice it if I don’t wear my riding pants. ATGATT for the win.

I also keep my engine guard mounted highway boards angled about halfway between stowed and fully deployed, using them as air deflectors since I NEVER use them otherwise. Makes a difference!
Thanks for advice,

I fixed all the not properly attached ducting when I did the plugs/timing belt so that is all good.

Its just non stop hot air blowing on my shins from somewhere whenever moving and the vents are closed and set to cool air.

Hwy boards are on my to do list for sure.

Thanks,
NOVAwing
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Re: Hot legs, is this normal? (I am not a woman lol)

Post by NOVAwing » Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:39 am

bellboy40 wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:17 am
The levers on my air ducts were also creeping back down when I got mine. When I had the lower fairing panels off I noticed that the lever pivot point was loose. It is just a crosspoint screw holding it and if you tighten it up a bit the lever will stay in position.
Good info, thanks.

I am going to look into this next time I have time and its not 100 degrees out lol.

Sounds like a nice easy fix.

Thanks,
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Re: Hot legs, is this normal? (I am not a woman lol)

Post by NOVAwing » Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:50 am

CrystalPistol wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:54 am
I wear jeans & boots, I don't get cooked.
Good to know, and I understand the risks.

I sweat like a stuck pig standing still if the temps are over 70F
I was born lucky that way, it sucks and I hate it but that's my life.

No chance I will ride with all the gear, or any pants/jacket in summer time.
Not until some one invents real airconditioned safety gear that is affordable, and NOT in black.

If I tried to where all the gear I would die after passing out from heat stroke lol.

I would have to give up riding, which is not really an option as far as I'm concerned.

Safety gear I where in the summer:
Full face modular helmet closed most of the time, except in slow speed relatively safe environments.
Gloves.
Boots.

In winter I add pants/jeans and a leather bomber jacket.

I pay for my own insurance.

To each their own brothers.

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Re: Hot legs, is this normal? (I am not a woman lol)

Post by NOVAwing » Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:00 am

WingAdmin wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:19 pm
The engine gets rid of heat by dumping it into the ambient air via radiators. To do so, it heats up the ambient air a certain amount. When it's 60 degrees, the air coming out of the radiator vents might be 90 or 95 degrees, which bare skin will tolerate very easily.

When it's 90 degrees, the air coming out of the radiator vents can be 130 degrees or more - this is more than enough to actually cook your flesh! You can end up with second and third degree burns on your legs.

The solution is to wear protective gear over your legs. But that's your choice.

You might try a set of wind wings to direct the heat out away from your legs, or to bring more cool air in to offset the heated air.
Thanks Admin,

That is very interesting to know.

So the radiators dump air into the vents on the lower sides of the fairing?

That sounds like a terrible design flaw, especially when the switch is set to cool air, and the vent is closed.

While the air has been hot, its not nearly enough to burn me, just at the top of pain tolerance for areas not accustom to such heat lol.

If I rip those feet heater hoses out, or reroute them off the vents, will that help me?

I'm so hot blooded I doubt I will have need of them in the winter or ever. I only ride till its down to freezing then I switch to the SUV, usually Nov-Jan I'm in the truck. Then back on the bike pending temps. I have never been to cold on previous bikes but they were different so we shall see I reckon lol.


Wind wings are on my to do list also. However, like all aftermarket mods for our bikes they are way over priced compared to factory repair parts in general so I have to be patient.

Thanks,

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Re: Hot legs, is this normal? (I am not a woman lol)

Post by NOVAwing » Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:01 am

RockportDave wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:04 pm
Here in South Texas we get a lot of hot and humid days on the coast.
I wear riding boots, jeans and mesh jacket.
My toe warmers stay closed and I have wind wings on the sides to funnel cool air on my legs and lower body. I also have a windshield vent which helps the upper body a lot.
I had the fairing lowers off and tightened the screws for the lower heat vents to keep them from opening.
While rebuilding the carbs and checking vacuum lines, I replaced the engine heat rubber that goes over the intakes. It helps keep the heat down.
Dave
All good advice, thanks much.

Going to do some of that for sure!

Thanks,
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Re: Hot legs, is this normal? (I am not a woman lol)

Post by NOVAwing » Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:03 am

dingdong wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:30 am
Riding with shorts on and complaining about hot legs reminds me of that old Henny Youngman joke. (Yeah I'm old) Patient: Doctor it hurts when I do this. Doctor: Then don't do that!
It may seem strange to some folks, I understand.

I come from other bikes where heat was not an issue, certainly not directed on to parts of the rider, that's crazy bad design imo.

I will continue to investigate this until I make it completely stop. There is a way I'm sure.

Thanks,
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Re: Hot legs, is this normal? (I am not a woman lol)

Post by Stew » Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:51 am

NOVAwing wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:50 am
...I sweat like a stuck pig standing still if the temps are over 70F
I was born lucky that way, it sucks and I hate it but that's my life.
I can relate, I am that same way unfortunately. When the topic of weather comes up I always say that I would feel hot living in Alaska lol. My favorite weather for riding is 55F to 65F partly sunny, I do ride ATGATT so it gets pretty uncomfortable for me much over 75F.

The thing about cool weather is you can always add layers if you want but when it's hot you can only take off so much and it's still hot.
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Re: Hot legs, is this normal? (I am not a woman lol)

Post by NOVAwing » Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:42 pm

Stew wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:51 am
NOVAwing wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:50 am
...I sweat like a stuck pig standing still if the temps are over 70F
I was born lucky that way, it sucks and I hate it but that's my life.
I can relate, I am that same way unfortunately. When the topic of weather comes up I always say that I would feel hot living in Alaska lol. My favorite weather for riding is 55F to 65F partly sunny, I do ride ATGATT so it gets pretty uncomfortable for me much over 75F.

The thing about cool weather is you can always add layers if you want but when it's hot you can only take off so much and it's still hot.
The bold above has basically been my go to statement most of my life lol.

Nobody wants to see me walking around nekkid :shock:

Well accept at the nudist resort my wife and I go to, and the OBX beaches lol

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