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Re: Who Never Wears A Helmet

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Re: Who Never Wears A Helmet

Post by Choctaw » Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:53 pm

I wear a helmet because I think its stupid not to wear a helmet. So yes when I see someone not wearing a helmet I just think he is a bit stupid. Hey I didn't ask the question.

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Re: Who Never Wears A Helmet

Post by Spook1800 » Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:34 pm

WingAdmin wrote:
Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:16 pm
I was heading home with my wife just the other day when we heard on the news: local Harley rider, coming to a stop at a corner, lost his balance and dropped the bike. Passenger OK. Rider killed, after hitting his head on the curb as he fell. No helmet.
That post alone makes it a simple choice. Here in Australia we have no choice but I'm sure if there was there would be morons out there without helmet on head!
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Re: Who Never Wears A Helmet

Post by dakotanator » Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:33 pm

Here in Montana, I'd say about half of the riders don't wear them. I personally do, as members have mentioned before, I prefer my brains WITHIN my skull.

I'm NOT pointing fingers, but most of the riders I see without them are on HD's.

I UNDERSTAND and appreciate having a CHOICE, and the freedom to choose.......it's just that common sense in MONTANA of all places (being #1 in organ-donation)
should dictate wearing one is the better choice. Especially since there are about a gazillion helmet choices, and there has to be ONE that a person would like.
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Re: Who Never Wears A Helmet

Post by Sadanorakman » Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:38 pm

What irritates me, is when I see a rider wearing a helmet, but without the strap done up; would love to understand their motivation... Do they think it somehow looks cool? Do they think the helmet will simply not come off in a crash?

I was taught to clip it up the moment you put it on your head, and if you unclip for any reason, then take the helmet off immediately... This way it becomes an automatic action integral to putting your head in the helmet, and you don't forget.
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Re: Who Never Wears A Helmet

Post by dakotanator » Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:40 pm

Well said.........and ditto.
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Re: Who Never Wears A Helmet

Post by AZgl1800 » Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:40 pm

Sadanorakman wrote:
Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:38 pm
What irritates me, is when I see a rider wearing a helmet, but without the strap done up; would love to understand their motivation... Do they think it somehow looks cool? Do they think the helmet will simply not come off in a crash?

I was taught to clip it up the moment you put it on your head, and if you unclip for any reason, then take the helmet off immediately... This way it becomes an automatic action integral to putting your head in the helmet, and you don't forget.

My Lesson:

if I forget to snap the helmet strap, it is still hanging, unstrapped when I get there. :evil:
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Re: Who Never Wears A Helmet

Post by dakotanator » Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:44 pm

In many way, it can be looked at like this..........

Take a few minutes to secure your helmet, or possibly spend a few weeks/months in a hospital trying to remember who you are and all the people around you.

Had 2 friends die when I was back in my (our) 20's because they didn't wear their helmets. One was a street accident, one was an off road accident.
Back then even I rode many times without one. NEVER AGAIN.

Again.......I RESPECT the right to choose, and everyone should have the right to choose for themselves. I just don't understand, knowing, seeing, hearing about details
of accidents where someone DIDN'T wear their helmet........why you wouldn't..? Riding any motorcycle is a 100% DEFENSIVE mode of travel. There are too many idiots
out there for ME to trust them to do the right thing at the right time. Your life is in YOUR hands, and I choose to use as many "tools" as I can to ensure my safety.
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Re: Who Never Wears A Helmet

Post by Sadanorakman » Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:05 am

AZgl1800 wrote:
Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:40 pm
My Lesson:

if I forget to snap the helmet strap, it is still hanging, unstrapped when I get there. :evil:
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Re: Who Never Wears A Helmet

Post by minimac » Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:23 am

Here, in NY state, we have to wear a helmet. What gets me, though, are to people who do the absolute bare minimum. You know the kind-the flat black salad bowl. Actually, if the LEOs would take the time to read the law, they'd realize that those are illegal also, unless they have the required reflective tape on both sides and a clearly visible (at least)D.O.T. sticker. If you have to wear it, why not wear a decent one? You could always glue a spike or a wig on it to look cool!

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Re: Who Never Wears A Helmet

Post by tamathumper » Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:28 am

Reflective tape is required in NY?
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Re: Who Never Wears A Helmet

Post by WingAdmin » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:33 pm

Many of those "brain bucket" helmets which are used to skirt by the law with just the bare minimum have almost zero shock-absorbing EPS layer and a bogus, forged DOT sticker on them. They are not legal for road use, but are used anyway. They tend to crack open upon impact, followed immediately by the rider's skull. They're popular amongst the Harley crowd for some reason...

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Re: Who Never Wears A Helmet

Post by Spook1800 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:32 am

Very good friend of mine was killed at 20km/hr on a Kwakka cruiser wearing one of those. Ambo reckoned it was a preventable fatality.
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Re: Who Never Wears A Helmet

Post by brettchallenger » Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:29 am

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Re: Who Never Wears A Helmet

Post by minimac » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:41 am

tamathumper wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:28 am
Reflective tape is required in NY?
IIRC, it's supposed to be four square inches on each side.(1"wide x 4"long)

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Re: Who Never Wears A Helmet

Post by Ravyn » Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:47 am

Spook1800 wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:32 am
Very good friend of mine was killed at 20km/hr on a Kwakka cruiser wearing one of those. Ambo reckoned it was a preventable fatality.
If I had not been wearing this full faced helmet I doubt that I would be here today.









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Re: Who Never Wears A Helmet

Post by Grindl » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:12 pm

I've read this whole thread four times through over the last six , seven months , to get a "feel" for the climate , and I finally reached a conclusion . A very different type of person rides a motorcycle today , than when I started riding , in 1963 . And that's okay . Just making a point .
When I began riding , I don't think there was a single helmet law anywhere in the country , so riding without a helmet was the NORMAL , rather than the current AMA - indoctrinated , P.C. - pressured , point of view . We rode because we loved to ride . And there was less population , meaning less traffic , and in my opinion , more courteous drivers than we have to deal with today . All that being said , I am actually looking forward to the end of my riding career , as it has become just another form of transportation . I hope you all enjoy the ride , no matter how long it last , or where it takes you . As the old saying goes ; Been There - Done That ! Got a couple of drawers full of T-shirts , and a bunch of albums full of pictures to prove it .

Whether you ride with a Helmet ; or without , Ride safe . Ride alert , and keep your head on a swivel . You might make it to bein a crotchety old grouch like me . With a whole bunch of really neat stories to tell , about the "Bad Olde Days" . Like ; when Sturgis , and Laconia , and some of the other Rallies were fun , and worth goin too . Before they became "Social Events" , with the majority of those attending , trailering their bikes . Because : "Who wants to ride THAT far" ? Yup ! Riding has changed in the last half century , and I'm glad I got to ride in the era I rode in ....

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Re: Who Never Wears A Helmet

Post by brettchallenger » Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:29 am

than when I started riding , in 1963
When started riding some ten years or so later in 1974 it was pretty grim. Little money about, fuel shortages, expensive bikes and of those many were not at all reliable. The Cold War meant that you could only ride about 800 miles east before hitting a Soviet Bloc country - and that is where you stopped. And even then you would have had to change your currency about three times. I would suggest that there has never been a better time for European riders to get out and enjoy riding. I think my days of continental motorcycling are gone now and I am quite jealous of the younger generation who can jump on a machine with comparitively eye popping performance - for very little money, and keep riding til they hit the dark lands of the Middle East and Africa.
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Re: Who Never Wears A Helmet

Post by DenverWinger » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:55 am

In 1980 I relocated from Michigan to Colorado and was surprised to find Colorado did not have a helmet law. Somebody said that Colorado and Alaska were the only two states that didn't. Nowadays it appears there's only a handful of states left that DO have helmet laws, and most of those only apply to under-18 riders.
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Re: Who Never Wears A Helmet

Post by WingAdmin » Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:08 pm

That may be so, but in the 1960's, 75% of the drivers weren't wandering around distracted texting on their phones, diddling with the stereo, etc...

This guy would have walked away with a few scrapes and bruises if he had been wearing a helmet.

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I would not be here today if I hadn't have been wearing my helmet.

I don't (won't) ride without one.

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Re: Who Never Wears A Helmet

Post by Solina Dave » Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:05 am

Grindl wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:12 pm
You might make it to bein a crotchety old grouch like me . With a whole bunch of really neat stories to tell , about the "Bad Olde Days" . Like ; when Sturgis , and Laconia , and some of the other Rallies were fun , and worth goin too .
My wife and I went with 5 or 6 other bikes to Laconia back in the very early '80s. The first time was fun, with guitars and beer and campfires, and other stuff. But the second time, the police cleared the area down on the carnival-like strip by the lake. That's where most of the partying was taking place, and bikes were doing some very serious burn-outs. And there was thousands of people in the street all around this mayhem. The police used tear-gas. That was it for us. Never went back.
A few years ago I was riding home from a 2 week solo trip to the Blue Ridge Parkway. I was about 40 kms. from home, and I had just ridden 800 kms. I was tired, it was stinkin' hot, and I was stopped in a bumper-to-bumper traffic jam on the 401 highway. The car ahead of me moved ahead about 10 feet and stopped. I was to close to his back end, not paying enough attention, overtired, got on the front brake, got it stopped, but lost it and over we went. I managed to step clear, so the bike wouldn't land on me. I got turned around somehow and was stepping backwards trying to keep my balance. But being the top heavy guy that I am, I fell backwards to the pavement, landing on my back. As I touched down, my head snapped back, and my helmet hit the pavement hard. It smashed a 2" diameter hole in the back of the helmet about 1/2" deep. I distinctly remember feeling the internal structure of the helmet collapsing and cushioning the impact. The helmet was done, and I later replaced it.
I often think about that embarrassing moment. Everybody all around me was stopped, and a trucker jumped from his cab and helped me get the bike back up. Then I got over to the shoulder and got myself together. Without that helmet, that 2" x 1/2" hole would have been in my head. I always wear my helmet.

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Re: Who Never Wears A Helmet

Post by landisr » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:12 pm

Like others, I started riding in '63. I'm pretty sure my parents were adamant about me wearing a helmet, but I wore one because I considered it a status symbol. :lol: After one or two short, uneventful rides without one, it quickly became obvious to me that a helmet was drier, warmer and QUIETER than without. I have worn one ever since, with a total count of short, helmetless rides that can still be counted on one hand.

The question about mandatory use is a tough one for me, seeing both sides, but I do encourage wearing a helmet to anyone that will listen. I scuffed up a helmet in a get-off a long time ago, and I lost a cousin to an accident because of no helmet...

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Re: Who Never Wears A Helmet

Post by brettchallenger » Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:00 am

The question about mandatory use is a tough one for me.
Same here. I don't mind sensible govermental controls on behaviours which put third parties at risk eg speeding or alcohol consumption but it is a fine line when it comes to an adult making a choice about something which will only effect him/her. I also do a lot of cycling and there is a constant call from some quarters for helmets to be made mandatory, even though there is little real evidence that they would prevent a significant amount of injuries. Most cyclists are killed by being crushed by 40 ton trucks or hit by a speeding Audi, causing multiple life ending injuries. Recently, I was labouring up a hill on my bicycle and was overtaken by a jogger! Should people who run be made to wear helmets?

On the whole, I would prefer it if my government and its police forces put its emphasis on protection from and detection of crime.
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Re: Who Never Wears A Helmet

Post by dbcooper » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:09 am

Started riding dirt bikes at age 9. I am now 56 years old and still riding dirt and street thanks to wearing a helmet.I can honestly say the helmet has saved my dome probably more times then I can recall. As a young rider I had more balls than brains.
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Re: Who Never Wears A Helmet

Post by Ravyn » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:19 am

dbcooper wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:09 am
Started riding dirt bikes at age 9. I am now 56 years old and still riding dirt and street thanks to wearing a helmet.I can honestly say the helmet has saved my dome probably more times then I can recall. As a young rider I had more balls than brains.
Hey, dbcooper. I live in Wa. state a short distance from where D B Cooper was supposed to have fallen into the Lewis river with all his money. Near a little red neck village of Ariel, Wa. It is said that he is working, incognito, as a bar tender in Ariel. hahahaha, well it's a good calling card for the pub. :-) If he was wearing a helmet maybe he did survive . :roll:



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