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Re: Speaking of Austone Taxi Tires....

Post by tsandvik » Thu May 02, 2019 11:16 am



Mine should be here by Monday. Will measure and let you know. Sure hope your burn rate is not normal (sorry, I'm a bit selfish) Putting this on only because of the high milage I have been hearing of. Shoot, I got 18,000 miles out of my last shinkos on my GL1200 Aspencade. If what you are reporting is the norm I will have very little milage gain.



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Re: Speaking of Austone Taxi Tires....

Post by Ravyn » Thu May 02, 2019 12:22 pm

tsandvik wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 11:16 am
Mine should be here by Monday. Will measure and let you know. Sure hope your burn rate is not normal (sorry, I'm a bit selfish) Putting this on only because of the high milage I have been hearing of. Shoot, I got 18,000 miles out of my last shinkos on my GL1200 Aspencade. If what you are reporting is the norm I will have very little milage gain.
Thanks for getting back to me. Before I put this Austone on I had a Dunflop E4 and it got 19,000 miles on it and still had a bit left when I changed it for the Austone. If I didn't measure wrong, and I used a tire depth guage, Then this tire is only going to make somewhere between 11,000 and 15,000 miles. Which means it will be bald before I get back from my summer trip. And I will go back to a M/C tire. I bought it because everyone is claiming such high mileage. ????

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Re: Speaking of Austone Taxi Tires....

Post by WingAdmin » Thu May 02, 2019 2:27 pm

Ravyn wrote:
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For those of you using the Austone Taxi tire or if you have a new one could you measure the tread depth ? I would like to know the depth of the tread on a new one. I posted mine as being 11/32 and I am wondering if I made a mistake on that figure when I measured it new. After 6,000 miles I have 6/32 tread depth left. This is not so good so I am wondering if I measured wrong or wrote it down wrong.
I just back from a 1000 mile trip and the tread wore down 1/32 of an inch from 6/32 down to 5/32.
If someone could post the depth I would appreciate it.

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I've got a brand new unmounted one at home, I'll check it tonight for you.

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Re: Speaking of Austone Taxi Tires....

Post by WingAdmin » Thu May 02, 2019 6:55 pm

My brand new one is 0.334", or roughly 11/32".

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Re: Speaking of Austone Taxi Tires....

Post by Ravyn » Thu May 02, 2019 8:18 pm

WingAdmin wrote:
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My brand new one is 0.334", or roughly 11/32".
Thanks wingadmin. That is what I thought I measured when it was new. It now has about 7,000 miles on it and measures just a tad more then 5/32. So that is right around 1/32 per 1000 miles. At that rate it will wear out between 11,000 and 15,000 miles.

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Re: Speaking of Austone Taxi Tires....

Post by Wing--Man » Thu May 02, 2019 8:53 pm

I have unmounted new Austones, both are 11/32.
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Re: Speaking of Austone Taxi Tires....

Post by WingAdmin » Thu May 02, 2019 10:06 pm

I measured the one that's currently on my bike. It's 0.315", or roughly 10/32, with 2800 miles on it.

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Re: Speaking of Austone Taxi Tires....

Post by Ravyn » Fri May 03, 2019 12:29 pm

WingAdmin wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 10:06 pm
I measured the one that's currently on my bike. It's 0.315", or roughly 10/32, with 2800 miles on it.
Thanks for the info. At your wear rate that means your tire will do about 3 times what mine will do. You should make about 30,000 miles or better.

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Re: Speaking of Austone Taxi Tires....

Post by Ravyn » Fri May 03, 2019 12:30 pm

Wing--Man wrote:
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I have unmounted new Austones, both are 11/32.
Thanks wing...man :-)

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Re: Speaking of Austone Taxi Tires....

Post by glk17l » Sun May 05, 2019 6:31 pm

Which tire will lower the rear end?

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Re: Speaking of Austone Taxi Tires....

Post by oldmopars » Mon May 06, 2019 1:26 pm

glk17l wrote:
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Which tire will lower the rear end?
Not the Austone, it is just slightly taller. The 185/75-16 I am running will also raise the bike, not lower it. You need to look at some of the other tire options people are running. I know there is a 205/55 and some other options, but be sure to see if the fit a 1500. I know the 1800 can run a few things the 1500 can not.

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Re: Speaking of Austone Taxi Tires....

Post by landisr » Tue May 07, 2019 12:11 pm

To the OP: Are you running with a sidecar? What air pressure are you running? It's hard to believe a tire could have a substantially softer compound than most or all similar tires. I agree, though, that your mileage doesn't justify the switch to CT.

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Re: Speaking of Austone Taxi Tires....

Post by Ravyn » Tue May 07, 2019 2:22 pm

landisr wrote:
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To the OP: Are you running with a sidecar? What air pressure are you running? It's hard to believe a tire could have a substantially softer compound than most or all similar tires. I agree, though, that your mileage doesn't justify the switch to CT.

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Yes I am running with a sidecar. gl1500 with a CSC friendship 3. As are many others and they are all getting better mileage. The rig is set up properly and has electic lean. When trimmed properly you can take your hands of the bars and it goes in a straight line.
As far as tire pressure goes this is what I do and have been doing it with my trailer tires and automobile tires forever......
Take the rig and drive it to heat up the tire to operating temps and make sure the tire is slightly over inflated, .....
Next use a chalk line across the tire. Start out with an over inflated tire so it wears off the chalk down the middle of the tire and drive it a short distance in a straight line and then look at the chalk line. It should be worn off down the center of the tire.
Drop you air pressure by 2 lbs and repeat and keep doing this until the chalk line wears off across the tire.
When the chalk wears off just across the width off the tire then this is your hot tire pressure. Lets just say it's 40 psi.
Now take the bike home and let it sit over night so the tire is cold. In the morning take a pressure reading. No matter what it is this is the cold tire pressure you should be using and when the tire heats up you should be very close the hot operating tire pressure .
Mine comes out at 38 to 40 psi hot operating temps.
I tried the 45 to 48 psi every one seems to think is right and they are way over inflated. Also the tire began to wear down the center of the chalk line right away.
I was only switching to gain a higher load capacity and higher mileage.

Is this what you wanted to know ?

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Re: Speaking of Austone Taxi Tires....

Post by landisr » Tue May 07, 2019 3:29 pm

Yes, Sir. It certainly sounds like you've done your homework. :) I'm not a SC guy. Just trying to keep the thinking juices flowing. Hopefully other chair folks can chime in with more ideas. Good luck.

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Re: Speaking of Austone Taxi Tires....

Post by Ravyn » Tue May 07, 2019 7:44 pm

landisr wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 3:29 pm
Yes, Sir. It certainly sounds like you've done your homework. :) I'm not a SC guy. Just trying to keep the thinking juices flowing. Hopefully other chair folks can chime in with more ideas. Good luck.

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Thanks for the feedback Ron. All input is appreciated. I also thought about rubber compound being softer or whatever. I wonder why they are being discontinued ?? Could they be having some kind of problem like this ?

oldmopar found a different tire he is trying on his 1500. A Nokian c-line 185/75/16. He does not have many miles on it yet but it fit without to much trouble. It has 13/32 inch of tread depth. I ordered one from Amazon today and will give it a try when this Austone wears out. I don't think it will last until I leave for a summer trip of about 10,000 miles or so. I think I will change out to the new Nokian before I leave the second week in July. I don't want to be messing around with tires on the trip. What pisses me off is I bought the Austone so I wouldn't have to be changing tires two or more times a year. Thanks again Ron.

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Re: Speaking of Austone Taxi Tires....

Post by DenverWinger » Wed May 08, 2019 6:15 am

If you are seeing excessive rear tire wear, thought occurs to me, how's the alignment on the hack? I believe it is adjustable, you may have a "toe in" or "toe out" condition between the back tire and the hack....
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Re: Speaking of Austone Taxi Tires....

Post by Ravyn » Wed May 08, 2019 10:26 am

DenverWinger wrote:
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If you are seeing excessive rear tire wear, thought occurs to me, how's the alignment on the hack? I believe it is adjustable, you may have a "toe in" or "toe out" condition between the back tire and the hack....
Thanks for the input denverwinger. There is no mis-alignment of anything. I have checked and rechecked everything. It is all set up properly and handles as it should. The tire wear is straight across the tire and not bias to one side or the other. The front tire is wearing straight down the middle and the only time I see the wear bias to one side or the other is when compensating for a strong side wind or such with the electric lean. Other then that it wears down the center. Being a side car rig adds a little weight to the equation but not that much. The side car weighs in at around 255 lbs total empty weight. So maybe half of that or less is on the back end of the wing. Add a passenger and a some gear and that figure goes up a bit but, hell, I know some wingers that weigh more then that, hahahahaha :-) The Dunlop E4 had 19,000 miles on it and still had some tread left but not a lot.

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Re: Speaking of Austone Taxi Tires....

Post by Rambozo » Wed May 08, 2019 6:45 pm

Ravyn wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 8:18 pm
So that is right around 1/32 per 1000 miles. At that rate it will wear out between 11,000 and 15,000 miles.
Maybe it's all those burnouts you are doing? :roll:



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Which tire will lower the rear end?
A flat one. :lol:

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Re: Speaking of Austone Taxi Tires....

Post by Ravyn » Wed May 08, 2019 8:36 pm

Rambozo wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 6:45 pm
Ravyn wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 8:18 pm
So that is right around 1/32 per 1000 miles. At that rate it will wear out between 11,000 and 15,000 miles.
Maybe it's all those burnouts you are doing? :roll:
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Which tire will lower the rear end?
A flat one. :lol:
Dang, you might be right.....I gotta stop doin that :-) where you get that pic of me doin a burnout......hahahahaha

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Re: Speaking of Austone Taxi Tires....

Post by ironman218 » Fri May 24, 2019 9:11 pm

I ride a '94 Goldwing 1500 with a Lehman trike conversion. What size tires are the Austone Taxi tires or do they offer a variety? My rear tires are beginning to show some wear.

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Re: Speaking of Austone Taxi Tires....

Post by tsandvik » Sat May 25, 2019 12:48 pm

Only way I see Austones listed is 175/16 Not sure what the ratio is but they fit on the back of my Wing just fine. Tight skidding them in but plenty of clearance on the swing arm. Not sure how they would work out on a trike.

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Re: Speaking of Austone Taxi Tires....

Post by 1stWing/next*chapter » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:15 am

I just got off the phone with Chris Eckert at universal tire, he says they are NOT getting anymore austone tires. Last 1 was sold thru them was in may according to there computer. Was told that if they continue to sell the Austone, Firestone would not seel to them anymore. Don't know how correct this information is, but that's what I was told. They're trying to find a suitable replacement. If anybody knows of a comparable tire, let them know.

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Re: Speaking of Austone Taxi Tires....

Post by Wing--Man » Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:16 pm

1stWing/next*chapter wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:15 am
I just got off the phone with Chris Eckert at universal tire, he says they are NOT getting anymore austone tires. Last 1 was sold thru them was in may according to there computer. Was told that if they continue to sell the Austone, Firestone would not seel to them anymore. Don't know how correct this information is, but that's what I was told. They're trying to find a suitable replacement. If anybody knows of a comparable tire, let them know.
Is Firestone going into mafia style "Strong arm tactics"?
Curious, what is it to Firestone if they do not sell 175R-16 size tires?
Does Honda have some say-so in Firestone?
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Re: Speaking of Austone Taxi Tires....

Post by bentleyss » Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:28 pm

Gonna jump in here and add my two cents. I have a GL1500SE with a sidecar and once my first rear wore out I got a Federal Formoza 195/55/16 CT to replace the bike tire. It lasted about 26000 miles for me. It was good but I didn't care for the lower ride height as I bottomed out a lot. I tried to find the Austone tire but had no luck. I went to tire calculator and found a Sunfall tire that is very close to the Austone and ordered it. It just came today and I'm going to mount it early next week. Will post some pics tomorrow of the tires and keep everyone posted. If it doesn't work...……..well ……..

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Re: Speaking of Austone Taxi Tires....

Post by glk17l » Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:43 pm

Hay bentleyss' How much did that tire lower you 1500, and what actually bottomed out, the tire or the suspension? I am looking for a tire that will lower the bike about 2 inches, for my 27" inseam short legs. I already cut over 2.5 inches of foam out of the seat and cut down the width on the sides of the seat, that did not make a difference. It is more of the width of the bike that is spreading my short legs. Before I resort to "Frankenstein" boots. I want to try a tire with a shorter sidewall.



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