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Re: GPS to Goldwing input device

Post by srt8-in-largo » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:28 pm



I guess I'll be the 2nd F6 that gets this installed; just ordered.

There sure are a lot of fancy-schmancy GPS solutions out there, for big dollars, but I wanted something simple that allowed me to continue using the OEM sound system and this fit the bill to a "T".

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Re: GPS to Goldwing input device

Post by srt8-in-largo » Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:29 pm

Wow... I ordered late last night and I already have a tracking number with delivery date tomorrow.

THIS is how business should be conducted. Thanks.

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Re: GPS to Goldwing input device

Post by srt8-in-largo » Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:13 pm

Well... the GPSIN device that I ordered seemed to have gone bad already in 3 months. It got to a point of not being able to hear the GPS sounds, no matter how high I set each of the volume controls. I made sure the bike's intercom system was on and both intercom volume and intercom mute volume were adjusted reasonably.

My GPS device outputs sound just fine when connected to the bike's AUX 3.5mm input... it's only when connected to GPSIN that the sound becomes inaudible; sometimes I can hear very weak sounds, but so weak they're it's useable.

I've spoken to a couple other people and they say they've used this device for years with no issues... so idk. I just ordered another one and hope I have better luck.

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Re: GPS to Goldwing input device

Post by WingAdmin » Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:03 am

srt8-in-largo wrote:Well... the GPSIN device that I ordered seemed to have gone bad already in 3 months. It got to a point of not being able to hear the GPS sounds, no matter how high I set each of the volume controls. I made sure the bike's intercom system was on and both intercom volume and intercom mute volume were adjusted reasonably.

My GPS device outputs sound just fine when connected to the bike's AUX 3.5mm input... it's only when connected to GPSIN that the sound becomes inaudible; sometimes I can hear very weak sounds, but so weak they're it's useable.

I've spoken to a couple other people and they say they've used this device for years with no issues... so idk. I just ordered another one and hope I have better luck.
If the replacement does in fact fix your problem, please send back the faulty unit and I'll refund your money for the new one. If it is in fact the GPS Input that has gone bad, yours will be the very first one, ever.

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Re: GPS to Goldwing input device

Post by Greenwinger » Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:27 pm

Was wondering if there is any system out that would allow the GPS voice through the speakers as well as the headsets? like the CB does.

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Re: GPS to Goldwing input device

Post by WingAdmin » Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:08 pm

Greenwinger wrote:Was wondering if there is any system out that would allow the GPS voice through the speakers as well as the headsets? like the CB does.
Not in a way that it could interrupt music, like it does in the headphones.

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Re: GPS to Goldwing input device

Post by Greenwinger » Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:22 pm

Thanks for the quick response.

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Re: GPS to Goldwing input device

Post by srt8-in-largo » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:44 pm

WingAdmin, thanks for your offer of the refund; I'm not worried about it though. Just fyi, the 2nd unit I bought also stopped working. It worked fine for a few months and then, without touching or changing anything, it just quit. I'm the only one who rides the bike, so I'm baffled.

I had both units tucked beneath the left side fairing, and I'm sure it gets pretty warm under there and I wonder if my failures are temperature or humidity related... being here in sunny, muggy Florida. I believe that transformer you're using has an 85C temperature rating, which should be fine, but +100C would be finer.

What are the temp ratings on the other parts?

Have you looked into system MTBF at all?

My installations are on a 2013 F6B; is anything different for this year or model?

I sure wish this thing worked for me, and I'm really curious why I've gone through two when most people get many trouble free years out of these.

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Re: GPS to Goldwing input device

Post by srt8-in-largo » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:54 pm

As another datapoint, I run an aftermarket voltmeter that I wired to connect directly across my battery terminals. When the bike is running (i.e. on the generator) it says my system operates at about 14.5V. Is this comparatively high and possibly contributing to an accelerated failure rate?

I wonder about this. My left headlight bulb seems to burn out faster than manufacturer specs. For example, sometimes I only get approximately 100 or 200 hours on a bulb "rated" for 500 hours. I believe automotive bulbs are spec'd for about 12V and running them higher, like at my 14.5V, will shorten their lifespan.

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Re: GPS to Goldwing input device

Post by WingAdmin » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:59 pm

srt8-in-largo wrote:As another datapoint, I run an aftermarket voltmeter that I wired to connect directly across my battery terminals. When the bike is running (i.e. on the generator) it says my system operates at about 14.5V. Is this comparatively high and possibly contributing to an accelerated failure rate?

I wonder about this. My left headlight bulb seems to burn out faster than manufacturer specs. For example, sometimes I only get approximately 100 or 200 hours on a bulb "rated" for 500 hours. I believe automotive bulbs are spec'd for about 12V and running them higher, like at my 14.5V, will shorten their lifespan.
There's no active components in there - it does not touch the 12 volt bus, it is purely audio, so bus voltage won't cause anything to fail.

There have been way over a thousand of these sold, and only two came back as a failure - one was a bad solder joint, the other was a wire that had been physically ripped out of the device, so that's not really attributable to design/QA. I'm very curious as to why you now have two not functioning. Have a very close look at the connectors and check for oxidation. Perhaps the heat and humidity there is accelerating oxidation?

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Re: GPS to Goldwing input device

Post by srt8-in-largo » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:15 pm

WingAdmin wrote:There's no active components in there - it does not touch the 12 volt bus, it is purely audio, so bus voltage won't cause anything to fail.

There have been way over a thousand of these sold, and only two came back as a failure - one was a bad solder joint, the other was a wire that had been physically ripped out of the device, so that's not really attributable to design/QA. I'm very curious as to why you now have two not functioning. Have a very close look at the connectors and check for oxidation. Perhaps the heat and humidity there is accelerating oxidation?
If there is accelerated oxidation, it's hard to see. I tried to do some debug on the first one and had it opened up and it looked new in there. I also have other aftermarket electronics on the bike and those have been fine.

I initially suspected the 3.5mm jack but I don't think it's that. I actually ordered a new transformer and replaced the old one. No dice again so I gave up. I might still have the 2nd one that failed if you want it. I'm sure you could do a better failure analysis.

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Re: GPS to Goldwing input device

Post by WingAdmin » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:21 pm

srt8-in-largo wrote:
WingAdmin wrote:There's no active components in there - it does not touch the 12 volt bus, it is purely audio, so bus voltage won't cause anything to fail.

There have been way over a thousand of these sold, and only two came back as a failure - one was a bad solder joint, the other was a wire that had been physically ripped out of the device, so that's not really attributable to design/QA. I'm very curious as to why you now have two not functioning. Have a very close look at the connectors and check for oxidation. Perhaps the heat and humidity there is accelerating oxidation?
If there is accelerated oxidation, it's hard to see. I tried to do some debug on the first one and had it opened up and it looked new in there. I also have other aftermarket electronics on the bike and those have been fine.

I initially suspected the 3.5mm jack but I don't think it's that. I actually ordered a new transformer and replaced the old one. No dice again so I gave up. I might still have the 2nd one that failed if you want it. I'm sure you could do a better failure analysis.
I'd like to have a look at it if you don't mind. If you need my address to send it back, PM me.

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Re: GPS to Goldwing input device

Post by srt8-in-largo » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:25 pm

WingAdmin wrote:I'd like to have a look at it if you don't mind. If you need my address to send it back, PM me.
Okee dokee. I can look for it this weekend; if I find it I'll pm you.

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Re: GPS to Goldwing input device

Post by mpoirierfsm » Thu Dec 01, 2016 7:17 pm

Just thought I would let you know I installed my unit a few weeks ago while I had the trike torn down for a new ECM and Air Filter. I use my rugged cell phone and it works great so far. Commands are louder than the music or intercom.
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Re: GPS to Goldwing input device

Post by WingAdmin » Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:05 pm

mpoirierfsm wrote:Just thought I would let you know I installed my unit a few weeks ago while I had the trike torn down for a new ECM and Air Filter. I use my rugged cell phone and it works great so far. Commands are louder than the music or intercom.
If the commands are too loud, you can always adjust the volume control on the GPS Input device itself.

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Re: GPS to Goldwing input device

Post by offcenter » Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:24 pm

I sure wish this thing would work through the speakers.
I have a ham radio that I would like to hear. I don't
use a headset since I wear a police style half helmet.
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Re: GPS to Goldwing input device

Post by WingAdmin » Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:14 pm

offcenter wrote:I sure wish this thing would work through the speakers.
I have a ham radio that I would like to hear. I don't
use a headset since I wear a police style half helmet.
Unfortunately this connects via the intercom system, which is not connected to the speakers.

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Re: GPS to Goldwing input device

Post by srt8-in-largo » Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:24 pm

If you do a lot of riding, you really need to use earplugs. I do... and I don't care that it's illegal in some places; permanent hearing damage is not what I want.

I can recommend the Klipsch X11 earbuds. Excellent sound quality and an NRR rating of -26dB.

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Re: GPS to Goldwing input device

Post by mpoirierfsm » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:10 am

WingAdmin wrote:
mpoirierfsm wrote:Just thought I would let you know I installed my unit a few weeks ago while I had the trike torn down for a new ECM and Air Filter. I use my rugged cell phone and it works great so far. Commands are louder than the music or intercom.
If the commands are too loud, you can always adjust the volume control on the GPS Input device itself.

No its great wish the music and intercom were as loud. Love the product.
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Re: GPS to Goldwing input device

Post by deepwater 204 » Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:27 pm

Does this device only work on the headphones or does it work on the speakers too ? I am asking because I would like to have this device but I don't have a working headset and would like to plug in my cell phone's gps and other audio .

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Re: GPS to Goldwing input device

Post by WingAdmin » Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:46 pm

deepwater 204 wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:27 pm
Does this device only work on the headphones or does it work on the speakers too ? I am asking because I would like to have this device but I don't have a working headset and would like to plug in my cell phone's gps and other audio .
It is headphones only. The reason is because it intercepts the intercom to inject the GPS audio, and the intercom doesn't function over the speakers.

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Re: GPS to Goldwing input device

Post by deepwater 204 » Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:55 pm

Thank you I have a input for the cb that interrupts the radio on the speakers I'll look at it to see if i can utilize it .

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Re: GPS to Goldwing input device

Post by Bones66 » Tue May 01, 2018 5:52 am

I have your device and must say it works perfectly. I like using the WAZE app on my IPhone better than Garmin for my directions but iPhones have no 3.5 plug how can I connect your device an an IPhone. Thanks

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Re: GPS to Goldwing input device

Post by WingAdmin » Tue May 01, 2018 8:15 am

Bones66 wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 5:52 am
I have your device and must say it works perfectly. I like using the WAZE app on my IPhone better than Garmin for my directions but iPhones have no 3.5 plug how can I connect your device an an IPhone. Thanks
Apple has pretty much abandoned the 3.5mm jack. You can buy a dongle from them now that you can plug into the bottom of the phone that will give you a 3.5mm jack...but news reports I have read are that the next iPhone will not offer even that.

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Re: GPS to Goldwing input device

Post by BrianD » Wed May 02, 2018 4:30 am

Bones66 wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 5:52 am
I have your device and must say it works perfectly. I like using the WAZE app on my IPhone better than Garmin for my directions but iPhones have no 3.5 plug how can I connect your device an an IPhone. Thanks
If you buy a little Bluetooth receiver, about $10 in most electronic stores or online, you can plug that into the jack and synch your phone to it. Works perfectly. This is how I connect my TomTom device to hear directions over the headset.


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