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Re: Darkside tire change

Post by RoadRogue » Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:49 am



There is always some one looking for a Corbin, when you get your new seat you wont have any problem finding a buyer. 8-)


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Re: Darkside tire change

Post by Dusty Boots » Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:56 am

RoadRogue wrote:So far the Altimax HP seems like a winner, mind you I haven't gotten it "broken in " yet. I am still playing with the air pressure looking for the sweet spot. For the first 500 miles I am starting with 41psi. The tire is rated to 51psi.

The only time I can feel any squirm from the sidewall flex is when I am really romping hard in the twisties and I give it a big handful coming out of the tight corners. It is very slight and may disappear with a few more psi. I had this same type of feel with the Austone when it was new too. Its just a matter of fine tuning the air pressure to riding style. For just straight up cruising it feels good, no squirm, no tendency to follow cracks.
As for clearance issues i have bumped the centre stand on one speed bump with a passenger on once. As a rule I go around speed bumps when I can. I have not pushed it hard enough to drag pegs yet there is still too much sand on the roads and the tire isnt broken in yet. This tire is shorter than the Austone but not so short as to cause any problems yet , even on the side stand the bike has a safe lean angle. I had to run the rear suspension at max with the Austone for clearance to the tire and am continuing to do so with this tire for ride height reasons.

If they had made this tire in a 60 series I would probably have gone with it instead. I do however really like the extra throttle response but am back to looking for 6th gear, alas you cant have both.

Now having said all that, I am going for a ride " to do some more testing". Ya thats it ....... 8-)


Todd, on my 175/60-16 Formoza, I found the best handling of it was achieved with 47 - 48 PSI in the tire. At least your tire is a tad taller than the 175/60 series, but that is why I'm looking to go to the 195/60 series. Shorter than the OEM for easier clutch wear/increased throttle response, but increased ride height over the 175/60 and 195/55 series so hopefully bottoming out on speed bumps won't be an issue.
My main concern is possible excessive sidewall flex with the Yok 195/60

I'm going to price one locally as I know I can get one delivered to my US shipping addy in Hamburg for $114 US and I have to head down there shortly for another package.

Keep those reports coming.



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Re: Darkside tire change

Post by WingAdmin » Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:03 am

SgtCharlie wrote:Rogue,

Thanks, that really helps. I have a Corbin seat right now (came with the bike) and it's more like a SADDLE! Man is it hard and uncomfortable! That's why I'm looking at the Saddleman because they use memory foam with gel on top.

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Re: Darkside tire change

Post by robb » Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:14 am

Have done 1400 miles in 30 hours on Corbin and was not sore afterwards.

Have tried many car tires, bought a spare wheel and started.
The Goodyear 170/60-16 was a thrill at launch, but did increase rpm by 400. Also limits cruise set to 68 mph. Placed feet 3/4" closer to ground, could flat foot bike. Picked up nail and took off to get it internally patched. Had a 195/75-16 Michelin Agelis 10 ply truck tire so figured give it a try. This tire sets rider 3/4" higher than stock, lowers rpm about 400 which results in cruise set at 81 mph. With 50 psi it is as close to a motorcycle tire as I have tried in 50 years using a GL1500, Yamaha Vstar 1100 and a 75 HD Sportster. Been running Car tires on bikes since 1975.

A bearing in wheel was bad so I went back to stock tire and with 5-6k tread left I'll ride it out before going back Darkside.

The 195 on left is mounted on GL wheel and is no wider mounted than 170 on right unmounted.


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Re: Darkside tire change

Post by bustedwing » Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:00 pm

It sounds like the ct is the way to go for the rear tire, but for the people who ride trikes and have two large rear ct already, which ct would work for the front? Anyone tried that yet? Pros and cons. Trikes don't lean so don't need the strong sidewall but usually that's all that is left when the center of the tire is worn out. I am in the same boat as the guys up in Canada, the weather is finally starting to get better so I have to get busy getting ready for riding.
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Re: Darkside tire change

Post by robb » Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:21 pm

No car tire sized to fit front. Would take a custom fit with different fender, quite possibly 2" wider forks.

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Re: Darkside tire change

Post by bustedwing » Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:49 am

Thanx Robb, maybe that's why nobody has answered me when I've asked that question.
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Re: Darkside tire change

Post by kodle2u » Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:01 pm

What tire pressure are you running on the General Tire Altimax HP in a 195-55-16? I just bought the tire and it was delivered this morning.. Once I get home from work I plan on getting it mounted on the rim and prepped to get it back on the bike... The tire is a good looking tire and I hope it gives the quality im looking for..

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Re: Darkside tire change

Post by robb » Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:56 pm

Most on the Darkside forum are running 32-26 psi. Come on over.

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Re: Darkside tire change

Post by Dusty Boots » Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:18 pm

kodle2u wrote:What tire pressure are you running on the General Tire Altimax HP in a 195-55-16? I just bought the tire and it was delivered this morning.. Once I get home from work I plan on getting it mounted on the rim and prepped to get it back on the bike... The tire is a good looking tire and I hope it gives the quality im looking for..

thanks
RoadRogue wrote:So far the Altimax HP seems like a winner, mind you I haven't gotten it "broken in " yet. I am still playing with the air pressure looking for the sweet spot. For the first 500 miles I am starting with 41psi. The tire is rated to 51psi.

The only time I can feel any squirm from the sidewall flex is when I am really romping hard in the twisties and I give it a big handful coming out of the tight corners. It is very slight and may disappear with a few more psi. I had this same type of feel with the Austone when it was new too. Its just a matter of fine tuning the air pressure to riding style. For just straight up cruising it feels good, no squirm, no tendency to follow cracks.

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Re: Darkside tire change

Post by RoadRogue » Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:26 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: thanks Ken 8-)
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Re: Darkside tire change

Post by Hazmeat » Sun May 29, 2016 10:52 pm

Well...I did it!!!

I did the reading and research and I finally went and put an Austone on rear of my GL1500. I had a local bike shop remove my old Dunlop Elite III and they put on the car tire for a nominal fee.

My first long ride will be tomorrow so I'll be able to give a report of riding 2-up through the mountains of Utah.

Many thanks to all of you who put in your 2-cents worth on this topic, you helped the FNG make a decision ;)
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Re: Darkside tire change

Post by Hazmeat » Wed Jun 01, 2016 11:06 am

Here's what I learned this weekend:

For riding 2-up on my Austone, I had to pump up my tire to 44 psi to remove the "squishy" feeling
I had to jack my rear suspension up to 65 psi to help prevent bottoming out/fender rub (me and my Honey are "big pant people") :lol:
My Wing sits a little taller now
There was a small learning curve on the twisties
My gas mileage remained about the same
My Honey stated that the ride was stiffer but felt more solid

So far, going Darkside has two thumbs up from this guy!!
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Re: Darkside tire change

Post by minimac » Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:59 am

Glad you're enjoying it! I ended up running my Austone at 48#, with 50# in the shocks. Once it's broken in and you're comfortable, you might want to try a radial on the front. I run the Bridgestone ExcedraMax (38#) and my handling and ride is superb.

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Re: Darkside tire change

Post by RoadRogue » Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:17 pm

48 psi in the tire seems to be the sweet spot with the Austone taxi tire on the 1500. shock pressure at max (57psi on the centre stand) and pull the innr rear fender forward with a zip tie or something similar to take care of the minor tire rub on the bigger bumps. Welcome to the Dakside,dont forget to pick up your cookie 8-)
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Re: Darkside tire change

Post by Hazmeat » Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:54 pm

RoadRogue wrote:48 psi in the tire seems to be the sweet spot with the Austone taxi tire on the 1500. shock pressure at max (57psi on the centre stand) and pull the innr rear fender forward with a zip tie or something similar to take care of the minor tire rub on the bigger bumps. Welcome to the Dakside,dont forget to pick up your cookie 8-)
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Re: Darkside tire change

Post by hoss4491 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:30 pm

robb wrote:
Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:14 am
Have done 1400 miles in 30 hours on Corbin and was not sore afterwards.

Have tried many car tires, bought a spare wheel and started.
The Goodyear 170/60-16 was a thrill at launch, but did increase rpm by 400. Also limits cruise set to 68 mph. Placed feet 3/4" closer to ground, could flat foot bike. Picked up nail and took off to get it internally patched. Had a 195/75-16 Michelin Agelis 10 ply truck tire so figured give it a try. This tire sets rider 3/4" higher than stock, lowers rpm about 400 which results in cruise set at 81 mph. With 50 psi it is as close to a motorcycle tire as I have tried in 50 years using a GL1500, Yamaha Vstar 1100 and a 75 HD Sportster. Been running Car tires on bikes since 1975.

A bearing in wheel was bad so I went back to stock tire and with 5-6k tread left I'll ride it out before going back Darkside.

The 195 on left is mounted on GL wheel and is no wider mounted than 170 on right unmounted.

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Re: Darkside tire change

Post by hoss4491 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:32 pm

do I understand correct the cruise want set till get up to 68.

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Re: Darkside tire change

Post by redial » Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:38 pm

Normal set of the cruise is in either 4th or 5th gear. But it will not set the speed above 80mph. (There is a workaround to overcome this if you go through the messages.) Go into the gears, and you can set the cruise control at any speed that will support those gears (about 30mph) and you can set it from that speed upto 80mph.
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Re: Darkside tire change

Post by AZgl1800 » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:00 am

redial wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:38 pm
Normal set of the cruise is in either 4th or 5th gear. But it will not set the speed above 80mph. (There is a workaround to overcome this if you go through the messages.) Go into the gears, and you can set the cruise control at any speed that will support those gears (about 30mph) and you can set it from that speed up to 80mph.
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when this mod is done, you can set the cruise up to 100 if you want.
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Re: Darkside tire change

Post by newday777 » Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:25 am

hoss4491 wrote:
Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:32 pm
do I understand correct the cruise want set till get up to 68.
If I remember correctly??? It's been a while, 5 years, since I have ad a 1500.
The cruise will set below 45 mph on the 1500.

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Re: Darkside tire change

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newday777 wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:25 am
hoss4491 wrote:
Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:32 pm
do I understand correct the cruise want set till get up to 68.
If I remember correctly??? It's been a while, 5 years, since I have ad a 1500.
The cruise will set below 45 mph on the 1500.
The cruise control on a GL1500 will engage at between 30 mph and 80 mph.

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Re: Darkside tire change

Post by themainviking » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:02 pm

Well, back to Darkside tire change for a question for alla Yall Darksiders. I was about to jump with a Michelin Primacy Alpin 195/55R16 ZP (run flat) when the whole world became sold out, and the tire is discontinued. Anyone who has already run this tire and is in the same situation, please tell me what a good replacement you may have found for this tire. I am especially partial to Michelin tires, and have been using them both vehicle (car and truck) and motorcycle (Harley) since the late 1970s, so the first choice for me would be another Michelin. If none are suitable, what else? Thanks to whoever has ideas.

And is the Battleax 45 still the weapon of choice for the front?
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Re: Darkside tire change

Post by newday777 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:58 pm

So is this on your 1800?
If so, start a new topic labled for the 1800. Just so you don't get wonkered answers as the 1500 handling of a DS sneaker is far different from the 1800 characteristics.
Just about all of this tread is 1500 related.


themainviking wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:02 pm
Well, back to Darkside tire change for a question for alla Yall Darksiders. I was about to jump with a Michelin Primacy Alpin 195/55R16 ZP (run flat) when the whole world became sold out, and the tire is discontinued. Anyone who has already run this tire and is in the same situation, please tell me what a good replacement you may have found for this tire. I am especially partial to Michelin tires, and have been using them both vehicle (car and truck) and motorcycle (Harley) since the late 1970s, so the first choice for me would be another Michelin. If none are suitable, what else? Thanks to whoever has ideas.

And is the Battleax 45 still the weapon of choice for the front?

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Re: Darkside tire change

Post by themainviking » Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:23 pm

newday777 wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:58 pm
So is this on your 1800?
If so, start a new topic labled for the 1800. Just so you don't get wonkered answers as the 1500 handling of a DS sneaker is far different from the 1800 characteristics.
Just about all of this tread is 1500 related.
themainviking wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:02 pm
Well, back to Darkside tire change for a question for alla Yall Darksiders.
Thank you newday777. I will do this.


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