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Re: 1500 vs 1800

Post by toanogreen » Sat Aug 02, 2014 4:18 am



"The 1500 Goldwing you sit in and the 1800 Goldwing you sit on."

Great analogy!!



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Re: 1500 vs 1800

Post by WingRigger97 » Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:21 am

Well said charlesgibson! Once you find the ride that "fits", go with it. No need to wonder if you're missing out on the this or that, enjoy the ride and go!
1500? 1800? I'm lucky enough to own one of each, and they each will do what they were built for. They're like brothers, they have the same parents, have a lot of shared family traits, but their personalities and character are distinct, each great in their own right.
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Re: 1500 vs 1800

Post by Duq_ » Sat Aug 02, 2014 12:06 pm

I noticed in your sig that you also own Grandad, a '75 GL1000. Do you ride it often? How do you find the handling of the GL1000 compares with the 1500 and 1800?

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Re: 1500 vs 1800

Post by WingRigger97 » Sat Aug 02, 2014 3:11 pm

Unfortunately Ole Blue is in suspension waiting for my retirement so I can do a Survivor restoration on him. It was because of the weekly tinkering and Shop visits for parts and info that led me to buy the Great White in the first place. Ole Blue had belonged to a family acquaintance who had passed and I was fortunate enough to bring him into my family. I road him for 3-4 years before I had to park him.
He will roll again, just not anytime soon.
Here we are back in '94 when I picked him up in Spokane before riding him back home to Phoenix.
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Re: 1500 vs 1800

Post by 702scottc » Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:36 pm

I've ridden every model of Goldwing ever made, I own 2 of them and in my honest opinion my 1990 Aspencade is probably the best I've ever ridden. I rode an 1800 for a while before I bought the 1500 it handles a little better and does have more giddy up but the driver pegs are too far back, almost feels like riding a sport bike. My 1500 has more storage, rides smoother, and has all the power a person really needs. I do like the single swing arm and fuel injection on the 1800, but the 1500 is a bigger bike and I like it. I still love riding my 1100 Interstate, not quite as powerful but runs great and the power band is wider.

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Re: 1500 vs 1800

Post by Mag » Sun Aug 03, 2014 9:58 am

That is one thing for me on my 1500....the pegs are set too far back (I thought I was the only one with this feeling since a lot of people like the seating position). I am only 5.11, but longer legs (go fig) and knees lock up when riding. I can not even ride comfy on the Yamaha Venture that I had because the pegs sit back even more. I never had highway boards until I bought this bike, and actually they are comfortable. I feel like my legs are sitting up a little high, but better than using the normal driver pegs.

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Re: 1500 vs 1800

Post by newtothe1996wing » Sat Aug 09, 2014 12:45 pm

I have a different perspective on the issue. I Had (and still have) a 1996 CBR 1000F before I purchased the 1500SE from a friend/customer. It is a 1996 with 2130 miles on it at purchase time.

I really like the 1500 (never ridden an 1800, but have friends that have and ride like sport bikes) and comfort compared to 400+ mile trips on the CBR, well it will be a treat. I spent over 3 month "restoring" the 1996GL, and had it been an 1800, could not have afforded it (EFI, etc), Had to replace tank, fuel pump, tires, etc and major metal polishing and rust removal.

Performance of the GL is acceptable and even gas mileage is not bad (41mpg). When it comes to "fun to ride" not even close. The CBR power in a big part of that, 135 HP on a 550# bike compared to approx. 100 on in an almost 900# bike, but for anything more than 100 mile rides, wing wins every time! I enjoy both bikes and glad I have the choice.

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Re: 1500 vs 1800

Post by 702scottc » Sat Aug 09, 2014 6:48 pm

It's tough to compare a crotch rocket to a touring bike, two different machines made to do different things. Once you really start riding that wing you will find yourself riding your CBR less and less. Crotch rockets are a blast in the twisties no doubt, but that 1500 corners very well and you can take your stuff with you along with a passenger in comfort, no substitute for comfort and cruise control!

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Re: 1500 vs 1800

Post by newtothe1996wing » Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:48 am

I agree with you comment "two different machines made to do different things", and I do enjoy the wing, :) but the "enjoy factor" for all but touring goes all to the CBR :P . And to your point, for sure you can take lots of stuff along on the wing, LOL.
Here where I live the wing is so much hotter to ride than the CBR, :o :o I changed the wing wind screen to an 11" one and helped a lot, but 95* and 80% humidity, air flow is all that helps and the CBR just has so much more.
But I am very lucky to have two tools for two different jobs. Glad to be part of this group as well! :D :D :D :D

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Re: 1500 vs 1800

Post by Dave007 » Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:09 pm

slamdunk727 - it seems we followed a very similar path in regards to bikes. I also started on a small Honda (actually a 50) around age 8. Last week (40 years later) I bought my first Goldwing. I too have wanted one since my mid-teens. I'm also tall (6') and feel comfortable on my '93 GL1500. I haven't had much time to ride yet (been very rainy also), but I know there's 40 year's of road-time just waiting to be enjoyed on my first Wing!

slamdunk727 wrote:I worked and saved, bought my first motorcycle a 70cc Honda at age 9 . Since then I have owned many different bikes makes
and sizes for the last 45 years . Four years ago I purchased a 1990 Goldwing 1500 SE I think from the time I was 18 years old I wanted a touring bike but wasn't ready to give up that snappy feeling of a sporty bike. In the time that I have the 1500 SE I love it ,the handling is OK the acceleration is OK I'm 6'2" so comfort was a concern and it is very comfortable .The 1800 has a little more passenger room but it's cramped for a larger rider. I test drove a 1998 GL 1500 SE basically the exact same bike that I bought and did not like it at all. It felt loose had some shake didn't seem to handle well very uncomfortable feel, so I guess it comes down to how the rider and bike fit together ,there is no one size fits all or one bike is better for all, you have to find the bike is best for you and enjoy riding as long as you can. Slamdunk727
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Re: 1500 vs 1800

Post by rfriedersdorf » Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:56 pm

I have 2 Gl1500s. One is a 1988 and the other is a 1994. The 88 has close to 200,000 miles on it. the 94 has about 75,000. Both are great bikes and run good. The 94 seems to have some dirt in the low end jet of the carbs. Don't know how to get this out. Have used sea foam and it has done a great job. But still hasn't got all of it. It is only on low end. Under 1500 rpm. I also have 1981 Gl1100 with all the Vetter Equipment on it. It runs and looks great. Has about 60,000 miles on it. I may some day get an 1800 if I can find one cheap enough. Then I will probably have to get rid a couple of bikes. I like how low an 1800 sets. Set on one at a dealer , but have never rode one. Afraid if I do, I will want to take it home. If I got an 1800 I would keep the 1994 1500. I am sort of looking for an 1800 that runs good with low mileage. I would say if I had to get rid of the 1500s for an 1800, I would and probably would never go back. Hey if any one can tell me what to do to get these carbs fixed with out to much trouble or money, please do. Also the gas gauge on my 1994 shows full until I get down to about under 1/2 tank then it drops and shows 1/4 tank. It was working just fine. Any know why this is doing this?
Thanks guys. Hey I have been riding all winter and love it. Not on Ice and snow. I just dress for it.

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Re: 1500 vs 1800

Post by flan48 » Sat Mar 04, 2017 11:42 am

I just started looking into moving to an 1800 also. Is there an inherent issue with the ride quality for most 1800's or specific years?

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Re: 1500 vs 1800

Post by FM-USA » Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:01 pm

The only TWO PENNY thought I can offer is the 1800's frame.
The early 1800 frame broke and MFG fixed the issue, to me, once it happened "it can" happen again.

I haul trailers, sometimes (not often) really heavy ones. I'm not one who can weld aluminum on the side of the road. I'd have to rely on someone, who knows where ever they are to do it competently. The aluminum frame of the 1800 is at minimum for weight savings and welding it can be easily botched by blowing through, thus making it worse. Sure there are quality welders, but finding them with-in reasonable towing distance... usually not.

Welding steel is a lot easier when traveling on the road, gas and arc welders are plentiful. But of course one must be diligent to the person's weld quality.

I don't know, was that a rant? :roll: . :lol: NOT!
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Re: 1500 vs 1800

Post by flan48 » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:00 pm

Thx for the input. I liked the "rant" regardless!

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Re: 1500 vs 1800

Post by billbob » Sat Mar 04, 2017 3:58 pm

If the GL1500 was fuel injected it would be the perfect bike ;IMHO. :!:

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Re: 1500 vs 1800

Post by WingAdmin » Sun Mar 05, 2017 1:05 pm

billbob wrote:If the GL1500 was fuel injected it would be the perfect bike ;IMHO. :!:
...and perhaps with ABS as well. Those would be my two most wanted items.

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Re: 1500 vs 1800

Post by bstig60 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:54 pm

I put about 10K miles per year on my 1500. Its no big deal to ride 5-6 hundred miles per day. Long trips on the freeways or on the secondary roads is where it belongs. I also own a Virago 1100 and enjoy riding it on short trips and around town, but the seat and seating position causes a sore butt after a couple of hundred miles. My 750 Seca touring model loves the back roads and the twisties and it is a joy to ride for short trips. Having said all that, I took a 5500 mile trip on my 1500 two years ago and enjoyed every minute. I have a 3000+ mile trip planned for this summer to visit a couple of National parks in the Northwest. This will be pulling my Time Out. Perhaps a trip to Florida later in the year.....
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Re: 1500 vs 1800

Post by Alan_Hepburn » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:02 pm

bstig60 wrote:I put about 10K miles per year on my 1500. Its no big deal to ride 5-6 hundred miles per day. Long trips on the freeways or on the secondary roads is where it belongs.
I agree wholeheartedly with this - we bought our 1500 last year, and my first time riding it was the 600+ mile drive from central Oregon to home in San Jose, Ca. Once we got home I was amazed that i felt like I could go another couple hundred miles without discomfort if needed! And just last week I replaced the fiberglass seat in the sidecar with a real suspended seat made for Jeeps so now my wife has a comfy seat as well! She says she's willing to try a several hour ride now, whereas with the old seat she was ready to quit after about 2 hours...
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Re: 1500 vs 1800

Post by Rednaxs60 » Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:19 pm

Finally got to sit on a 1500. The cockpit had more room then my 1800 when I first got it, but after having the seat on my 1800 custom fitted to myself - I was moved back two inches and up two inches (shaving off and putting in foam) - I now have the same knee room as the 1500. I did find the original seat on the 1500 to be lower than that on the 1800, and considerably lower than my 1800 after having my seat done. The original seat position on the 1800 was such that I felt a pinch between my shoulder blades but this was gone after having the seat done. I then did a 10,000 Km trip to Ontario and back - great ride. On the 1500 there was no issue with arm placement. My elbows were comfortably just in front of my torso and at about a 130 degree angle. I have also taken my 1200 and had the seat customized for myself and the better half because of the positive experience with my 1800.

As for riding can't say, but will say that when I looked at the 1800 there were two main issues/complaints - suspension and tire longevity. The 1800 suspension went soft early on in its life, say around 50,000 Kms. To fix this researched what was available and went with Traxion suspension front and rear - significant difference in ride and handling.

The seat and suspension upgrades were worth it and turned an otherwise modest 1800 touring machine into more of a sport touring machine. I have also been a fan of fuel injection and fuel injection was one of the key elements in deciding to buy the '85 Limited Edition.

Having stated the above, if you have the bike customized to suit yourself regardless of the bike, it makes all the difference. Ergonomics are a key element in enjoying your ride.

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Re: 1500 vs 1800

Post by Fatwing Chris » Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:11 pm

FM-USA wrote:The only TWO PENNY thought I can offer is the 1800's frame.
The early 1800 frame broke and MFG fixed the issue, to me, once it happened "it can" happen again.

I haul trailers, sometimes (not often) really heavy ones. I'm not one who can weld aluminum on the side of the road. I'd have to rely on someone, who knows where ever they are to do it competently. The aluminum frame of the 1800 is at minimum for weight savings and welding it can be easily botched by blowing through, thus making it worse. Sure there are quality welders, but finding them with-in reasonable towing distance... usually not.

Welding steel is a lot easier when traveling on the road, gas and arc welders are plentiful. But of course one must be diligent to the person's weld quality.

I don't know, was that a rant? :roll: . :lol: NOT!
Brand new frame design in late 04.Cracking after that doesn't seem to be an issue.I've done a lot of reading on this as I have a mid to late 04 and I haven't heard of one of the new frames failing.
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Re: 1500 vs 1800

Post by JoeHall » Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:09 am

I realize this is an old thread, bit can compare and contrast, since I have now owned both 1500 and 1800. In 1994, I bought a 1993 GL1500 with 10,000 miles on it. Sold it after riding it 50,000 miles. I have many fond memories of that bike, but the main reason I sold it was because it was too top heavy. About the 10th time it tipped over, I started looking at lighter bikes, and got back on a BMW. The tip overs were more embarrassing than anything, and I learned once it leaned over too far just to let it fall, then pick it back up again. Most tip overs were due to carelessness on my part, i.e. stopped alongside a road, with one foot off the pavement (in the California desert sand).

I have now owned an 1800 for three weeks and 3,000 miles. I appreciate that it is not so top heavy, and like its firmer suspension. The 1500's seat was definitely more comfortable. If not for owning an AirHawk seat cushion, at this early point in time I probably would be looking at a more comfortable seat, or another motorcycle.

I have also ridden Harleys and BMWs extensively, about 200,000 miles each, and upgraded the suspension in most of them, because it was badly needed. Though I realize it is popular to upgrade GW suspensions also, I never did so with the 1500, nor am I yet convinced there is a need to do so with the 1800.

So far, this 2008 GL1800 is working for me!

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Re: 1500 vs 1800

Post by bstig60 » Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:40 am

I have owned two 1500's; an 88 and a 99. I had a Day Long seat on the 88 which I moved to the 99. Great Seat, but expensive. .I finally sold the seat and used the stock seat for the rest of the time I owned the 99. Didn't find any problems with it... I bought an 03 1800 last year. What a difference in performance.. I have put 10K miles on it and the stock seat is just as comfortable as the 1500 seats. No problems on long trips with it either. I didn't find either of the 1500's to be any more top heavy than the 1800 is. Both are very large and heavy bikes and it pays to be cautious when riding them slowly or coming to a stop. I learned a long time ago that you don't put your foot down on a GW until the bike comes to a complete stop. If you do, you can easily dump the bike.
The main differences I see between the 1500 and the 1800 is engine power and the brakes. The 1800 will run off and leave a 1500 and most other large bikes in the dust quickly. It handles better, more like a sports bike, but the braking is very sensitive and it takes some getting used to.... The 1500 lacked power when pulling my camping trailer in the mountains of Northern California. That isn't a problem with the 1800. I pulled the same trailer last year on a trip from NoCal to Glacier National park in Montana. Never a problem with towing even in steep terrain.
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Re: 1500 vs 1800

Post by TerryRuth » Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:57 am

WELL I learned to ride in 68 on a 650 Triumph bought and rode BSAs Triumphs rode tridents kawi 350 amazing power but HEAVIEST clutch EVER Norton Camandos 750 Kawi triple then in 79 got my first Honda 4 750 nooooooooooo more wrenching and nobody was stupid enough to keep up with it.Got my 1st 1100 wing in the mid 90s and kept buying llow milers til 4 years ago Then I got a hi mile 1500 new stero 2 alt and a rear master cyl. that kept me down a week(worst job EVER ) I liked it had reverse but it was HEAVY and I was used to shifting at 9400 redline,, on 1500 is 5500 and at 5000 rpm there was nothing left It was ALWAYS clumsy and I had it over MANY dozens of timeS AND 10 or 15 times could not get it back up. GOT BLINGED LOW MILE 06 now , its LIGHTER more nimble smoother FASTER My only criticism is it WHINES like a sewing machine AND the factory heated grips and seat are driving me nuts Seems nobody knows how to fix it and local Honda mech says "" new harness " $1300 and maybe 40 hrs labor at $135/hr I see by the posts I am not alone either . lol i'll fix it I'M HOOKED and at 71 yrs. its likely my last ride great bike
At 71 it will be my last ride and me

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Re: 1500 vs 1800

Post by TerryRuth » Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:13 am

Quit bitching on the seats go Ultimate Goldwing Seats made special for short fat tall skinny mid heavy husky .They got a seat for EVERY ASS They're priced
like OEM OR LIL MORE but quality its all they do and do it well

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Re: 1500 vs 1800

Post by AZgl1800 » Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:08 am

TerryRuth wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:57 am
WELL I learned to ride in 68 on a 650 Triumph bought and rode BSAs Triumphs rode tridents kawi 350 amazing power but HEAVIEST clutch EVER Norton Camandos 750 Kawi triple then in 79 got my first Honda 4 750 nooooooooooo more wrenching and nobody was stupid enough to keep up with it.Got my 1st 1100 wing in the mid 90s and kept buying llow milers til 4 years ago Then I got a hi mile 1500 new stero 2 alt and a rear master cyl. that kept me down a week(worst job EVER ) I liked it had reverse but it was HEAVY and I was used to shifting at 9400 redline,, on 1500 is 5500 and at 5000 rpm there was nothing left It was ALWAYS clumsy and I had it over MANY dozens of timeS AND 10 or 15 times could not get it back up. GOT BLINGED LOW MILE 06 now , its LIGHTER more nimble smoother FASTER My only criticism is it WHINES like a sewing machine AND the factory heated grips and seat are driving me nuts Seems nobody knows how to fix it and local Honda mech says "" new harness " $1300 and maybe 40 hrs labor at $135/hr I see by the posts I am not alone either . lol i'll fix it I'M HOOKED and at 71 yrs. its likely my last ride great bike
At 71 it will be my last ride and me
much the same here, at 75 buying new rides is history.
the 2002 with only 114,000 miles is going to outlast me a long time, and probably my son's lifetime also.

took it on a 300 mile ride today, nice ride, but the humidity at 90% and 90°F was a killer.
I had to stop a couple times and walk into the beer coolers to get myself rehabbed :mrgreen:


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