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Re: Dunlop Elite 4's

Post by C-dub » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:45 pm



My E4's wiggled on grooved pavement from day 1. Maybe not day one, but when nearly new with less than a couple hundred miles on them. Could've been day 1, but not sure.

About 9k miles later they wiggle less on the same stretch of grooved pavement. I've also measured my tread depth about every 1k miles and I figure I've lost about 40% of the tread on front and back. I figure that's doing pretty good and should get at least 17k out of them before needing replacement depending on our trip schedule.

I also put the centromatic wheel balancers on a little while after putting the E4's on and I think that is helping with the mileage. I just checked my records. I put the E4's on at a little under 10k miles on the bike and the centromatics at just under 16k. It immediately felt like there was less vibration after installing the centromatics, which might be helping the mileage on the tires. If so, I really expect to get more out of the next set. I don't remember exactly what psi I've been running, but I think it is a couple pounds more than the recommended, so I'm gonna guess 38-39 in the front and 43-44 in the rear cold.

I'm really surprised some of ya'll are putting 41 in the front. I'll have to consider that, but IDK ...


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Re: Dunlop Elite 4's

Post by AZgl1800 » Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:57 am

Gabriel wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:45 pm
With 41 in the front E3 I'm seeing 48/49 when up to temp.
That's pushing it to me and I've seen 50 in the rear @110 degrees tire temp... :shock:
TPSI is a "cold TPSI"

do NOT let air out when riding, the tire is designed to handle 50 or more TPSI when it is hot. when you stop riding, the tire cools down, and if you have let air out, it will be way too low when it cools off.

you are trying to overthink the situation.
I rarely adjust TPSI on my bike. I look at it once a week maybe....

a check before you ride for the day is good enough, every time you put the tire gauge on, you loose a bit of air.. not good.

I have found that if you only check it when cold, that the TPSI does not vary hardly any, at least on my bike. the rims don't leak.
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Re: Dunlop Elite 4's

Post by oilboy1162 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:10 pm

10k on E4's. no cupping. 41psi front,43-44 rear. no cupping. hate tar snakes no matter what tire i have! very happy thus far.
:lol: I know people say we spend too much money on our rides, but I can't hear them when I'm 1000 miles away! :roll:

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Re: Dunlop Elite 4's

Post by C-dub » Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:01 pm

I just measured mine again today, 2k miles after my last post. I'm at 11k on these now and tread depths are 2.3mm in front and 3.4mm in back. Neither tire has reached 50% wear yet. I was close on my guess for pressures in that last post. I've been keeping the front at 38 and the rear at 43. I went up two pounds from the recommended after listening to ya'll. I think I'm still opn track for at least 5-6k more before replacement. We have a trip coming up in October that should be about 1-1.3k miles and I'm using about 1k or less per month, so I should be okay through that trip and for a little after. We'll see and keep monitoring.

Oh, no apparent cupping or unusual wear yet either.
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Re: Dunlop Elite 4's

Post by Big Bob » Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:17 pm

On my 1500 with E3S I always ran 41F, 41R I averaged 20k per set. Now that I have a 1800 with E4S I'm running the same air pressures it seems to handle great. Like the E3S they don't like tar snakes, at all.

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Re: Dunlop Elite 4's

Post by wingider » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:43 am

I went from Elite3 to bridgestone Exedra 704/709 and doing easy 20K km on a set and no wiggeling at all, find the bridgestone on wet conditions far mutch better, even when the rear tire was almost a slick it give me a safe and secure drivingfealing now riding the 4th set and a 110.000KM furder on in 4 years

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Re: Dunlop Elite 4's

Post by Usranger74 » Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:03 pm

I am on my second set. First set I got around 14 K miles out of them. I run 42 F and R. I ride solo and do not pull a tailor. I have been in a lot of rain with no issues.

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Re: Dunlop Elite 4's

Post by Viking » Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:53 am

I for one have no idea how those who are getting 16K plus miles on your tires are doing it. It must be that you have much much smoother roads where you live. I am really happy if I get 12K miles and I do not normally ever get that. I do aggressively ride twisties whenever I get the chance, but that should not wear the tires out, except for off center where they are never worn out anyway. I am hitting the wear bars on the rear at about 8K miles and the front at about 10K miles. I air them up to about the average that everyone is doing, 41 front and 40 rear. I have 3 oz of beads rear and 2 oz front. They run perfectly, do not feather or cup, but I do not get great mileage. I have gotten 20K miles off a set of Michelin Radials on a Harley, but they do not make a Michelin Radial to fit this bike. I also have not pulled a trailer with this bike for the past two years (one set of Elite 3s, plus a half a rear Elite 4), and the road miles per tire only went up on the front tire ?????

I do admit that when I am getting close to wear bars, I keep a good eye on the tire and the minute I hit a wear bar, the tire is replaced. Are you people who get higher miles per tire riding into the wear bars? I made the mistake of doing that one time and ended up with a blowout in northern North Dakota... but that is another story, :lol:
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Re: Dunlop Elite 4's

Post by AZgl1800 » Tue Aug 20, 2019 3:38 pm

my front E3 was below the wear bar just a bit.....
I wasn't all that concerned about it, was watching tread very closely.

but got hassled so bad by my friends, that I finally gave it up at 14,000 miles.

E4s were out by then, so I now have an E4 on my 1800
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Re: Dunlop Elite 4's

Post by huggiebear » Thu Aug 22, 2019 2:30 pm

This morning I called Dunlop because my Elete4 didn't lost as the previous tires.
After 8 or 10k Km I found cupping on the left side of the tire, so this morning I ordered a new one.
256$ CD plus tax.
Then I called Dunlop asking if I was doing something wrong , told him I keep the pressure at 41 in the back tire and 38 front. He advised me 44 rear and 38 front.
I was told I might left the Elite tire pressure To go lower than that and starting cupping or I do aggressive left turns plus other stuff. May be I made tooooo many tight left turn?
But this is not why I'm writing this.
I was told the bars we see in the Elite 4 are not wear bars, what we should look instead is the little holes in the tire, if you don't see these holes anymore then it's time for a new tire.
I've told Dunlop these Little holes in my tire are still dip, I guess I'm doing something wrong because my tire is wearing on the left more than the centre.
I just want to pass this information to someone like me who never heard of these wear holes in the Elite 4.

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Re: Dunlop Elite 4's

Post by AZgl1800 » Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:48 pm

hmmm, so the bars are not the wear marker?

I have always run the tires down until the little holes are gone, and that is beyond where the "wear bars" are.

I got 14,000 miles out of the E3 on my 1800 by doing that, still had grooves so I was not worried.
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Re: Dunlop Elite 4's

Post by mterraci » Thu Aug 22, 2019 5:37 pm

I don't get to the wear bars. I'm a big chicken when it comes to tires. If anything I'm probably guilty of changing them a little bit too early. To me it's not worth the risk of trying to run them until there's nothing left. You only have to hit the ground one time to really get hurt.

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Re: Dunlop Elite 4's

Post by oilboy1162 » Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:22 am

Those “bars”aren’t wear bars. I noticed them when I got my new tires and they were already flush to the tread. They are are part of the tread pattern
:lol: I know people say we spend too much money on our rides, but I can't hear them when I'm 1000 miles away! :roll:

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Re: Dunlop Elite 4's

Post by C-dub » Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:51 pm

I'm still on my first set of E4's. I've been measuring the depth of the holes. I'm not sure if I've ever seen the wear bars or whatever on any motorcycle tire. I might have once, but usually once the main contact patch is bald or near bald they get changed.

I've only had one real flat motorcycle tire and thankfully it didn't go flat until I got home. My front tire clipped one of those giant ratcheting things from a flat bed semi trailer when I was changing lanes. I looked over at the tire and it looked okay until I pulled into my driveway about 15 miles later. It went completely flat in seconds when I stopped. Before that, I guess the constant motion and heat kept the slice expanded enough to not lose pressure. IDK, but it was freaky. That was on the Busa.


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