GL1200A electronic cruise control


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GL1200A electronic cruise control

Post by LeMaitre » Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:04 pm



Hello,

I am looking for help from someone that has added an electronic cruise control recently. The threads I found are a little dated and I wanted to know what currently available parts are being used.

Thanks,

Mark


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Re: GL1200A electronic cruise control

Post by WingAdmin » Mon Sep 04, 2017 5:27 pm

LeMaitre wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:04 pm
Hello,

I am looking for help from someone that has added an electronic cruise control recently. The threads I found are a little dated and I wanted to know what currently available parts are being used.

Thanks,

Mark
The universal gold standard was always the Audiovox CCS100 aftermarket cruise control system. However it is no longer being made - at least not by Audiovox. Murph's contacted the original manufacturer (the manufacturer that made them for Audiovox) and got them to start producing clones for him, and they can be purchased from their site here: https://www.murphskits.com/product_info ... cts_id=422

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Re: GL1200A electronic cruise control

Post by LeMaitre » Fri Sep 29, 2017 5:29 pm

Update,

I ordered the CCS100 from Murphy Kits, thanks WingAdmin. I ordered the brake relay because I plan on replacing the brake lights with LED. I got the vacuum reservoir as well.

Started the tearing apart phase of the install yesterday. Found a mouse nest behind the volume controls on the left side of the bike. Besides the nest I found where they chewed through a drain hose. After removing the lower fairing, I was able to pull the good portion of the hose to open air. I will have to check for interference during re-assembly.

The real purpose of pulling out the volume control was to see if the vacuum reservoir would fit in the space. It does and I got a mounting hole drilled. It started to rain so that is the stopping point for work on the bike.

Now I got to do more internet searching to find where I attach on the carbs for vacuum. Any helpful pictures will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Mark
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Re: GL1200A electronic cruise control

Post by DenverWinger » Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:54 am

Try attaching to one of the carb sync ports on the manifold tubes.
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Re: GL1200A electronic cruise control

Post by LeMaitre » Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:16 pm

A little more progress.

DenverWinger, I have not attempted to sync the carbs on this bike so it took a little while to find the screw. The kit did not include the fitting so I had to use one from the carb sync kit.





With the source of vacuum found I loosely mounted the vacuum tank.





Started scoping out how to attach the selinoid to the throttle linkage. Installing it will be the next step.

-Mark
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Re: GL1200A electronic cruise control

Post by larryc » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:02 pm

I used to have a CCS100 on my 76 Wing. It worked great for years. On mine, the vacuum worked better with a hose from all 4 intakes. The 1200 might supply more vacuum. I also put check valves on each line before the vacuum tank. I didn't know you could still get the CCS100 until I was reading your thread. I might have to get one for my 84.

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Re: GL1200A electronic cruise control

Post by DenverWinger » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:36 pm

+1 on the four hoses and check valves. Good idea. Spread the load. With single cylinder source that cylinder could get into lean condition depending on vacuum use by the cruise system, and especially when first starting engine to "charge" the reservoir.
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Re: GL1200A electronic cruise control

Post by LeMaitre » Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:01 pm

Thanks for the feed back.

A question, since the reservoir has a check valve, does each source also need one?

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Re: GL1200A electronic cruise control

Post by DenverWinger » Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:44 pm

Check valves to isolate each source from the others, total four check valves needed. If the reservoir check valve is integral to the tank, the 5th won't hurt.
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Re: GL1200A electronic cruise control

Post by LeMaitre » Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:45 pm

Placing the servo took quite a few of on and offs. The cable was a foot longer than needed so the challenge was finding the best route.





The horn was removed and the tab on the bike bent so the horn could be moved towards the center of the bike. The cable was threaded between the radiator hose and engine to keep it from getting into the fan.

Getting the linkage attached involved removing the linkage arm on the left bank of carbs, sliding the loop down the arm and over the pivot point for the arm. With the wire loop in place the cutting bending and drilling for the servo linkage could begin.





With the mechanical done, I could move on to the electrical. First order of business was figuring out where I wanted the controller. I chose above the trip computer. This did require a bit of 3d printing to form a back support. The support is attached with screws from inside.





The electrical connections to the bike had a few head scratches. The red and violet wires for the brakes, I ended up attaching to the relay by the bars. For speed indication, I attached the blue wire to the right coil. Power and grounds are attached to the accessory post.

Started putting things back together and found the shroud around the left carburetors will need to be trimmed. Hopefully tomorrow I will be able to test the system.

-Mark
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Re: GL1200A electronic cruise control

Post by LeMaitre » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:10 pm

Winters over, maybe.

Have gotten back to working on the cruise control. Made an adjustment to the RPM switch. Changed it to 2000 instead of 4000. I have added 4 delco vacuum check valves. When I went for a test ride, the system did not engage the throttle. Next step will be to check the plumbing on the vacuum reservoir. After that and another test ride, if it still doesn't work then I will be going through all the electrical connections.

-Mark
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Re: GL1200A electronic cruise control

Post by Stew » Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:31 am

I don't have anything to add your installation but I installed this cruise control unit on a Hyundai Accent I had a few years back and was really impressed, it worked really good.
Winging it every chance I get 8-)

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Re: GL1200A electronic cruise control

Post by LeMaitre » Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:41 pm

What color wire feeds the tachometer?

Having trouble getting system working. Went through the vacuum connections to make sure everything was flowing in the correct direction. Then went through the electrical, I have narrowed the issue down the the RPM input. What I have tried is to connect to the coil. The cruise does not engage to hold RPMs. This lead me to the question of identifying the wire that leads up to the tachometer.

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Re: GL1200A electronic cruise control

Post by larryc » Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:56 pm

The installation manual says the blue wire connects to the negative side of the ignition control.

You can get a copy of the manual here https://www.dropbox.com/s/xwe4yzuskq8ru ... M.pdf?dl=0

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Re: GL1200A electronic cruise control

Post by LeMaitre » Tue Jul 24, 2018 5:37 pm

The bike decided to take me down a rabbit trail while testing the wiring for the cruise control. The bike decided to no longer turn over. Went for the simple and ordered a new starter relay. That failed to fix the issue so I ordered the starter. Getting that starter out proved to be a very long affair. The short of it is on the starter side of the bike three of the exhaust studs came out of the header. None were the one blocking getting the starter out. Double nutted the stud and broke it. Heated it up with Map gas, cooled it with dust off and could not budge it with new vise grips. Ordered a stud removal tool, it grabbed the stud solidly. Tried using the small cordless impact driver with short burst. Broke the stud off at the manifold. That enabled me to get the starter replaced and put the exhaust back on the bike minus one stud. During reassembly I noticed that one of the vacuum lines had cracked. Luckily there was enough line to cut off the cracked end.

With the bike running, and connecting the cruise to the other wire coming off the coil. I was able to engage the cruise and watch it move the throttle linkage. One advantage of using engine rpm is that you can test the cruise in neutral. I am glad to say the test drive went without any surprises. Currently I have the controller set to a moderate weight vehicle.

Now if I can find those highway pegs I'll be ready to do a SS1K.

-Mark


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