Ontario to British Columbia - Second '85 LTD


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Ontario to British Columbia - Second '85 LTD

Post by Rednaxs60 » Fri May 04, 2018 11:03 pm



In northern Ontario getting my second '85 LTD prepped for the trip west to Victoria at end month. My initial thread on this is at: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36041

Last Saturday they had a winter storm come through:

Brother's Driveway
Brother's Driveway

When I saw this from my brother last Saturday was not impressed. It has improved significantly since then:


Had three boxes of parts and items needed for the trip:


My brother had moved the bike into the garage out of cold storage last weekend:


When he did this he mentioned in a text that inside storage would cost be two gold bars - nor bars of gold, so I painted some steel pieces gold, wrapped the box with Xmas paper and paid my tribute. He had forgotten about this and almost lost it when he opened the box - debt paid:


Have more pictures to transfer from my phone and will get to them. In the meantime, have new tires installed on the rims, the external alt mod is almost completed including the wiring for the 3 wire alternator. I modified my first set of alternator brackets, much better second time round. Decided to go this route because of the trip across to Victoria. Easier to source an external alternator than a stator en route.

The shop here did install the tires for me as I am from out of town. The local shops in the north have decided that if you don't buy your tires from them, no install. When I picked the tires up this morning, had a short chat with the owner. Mentioned that the industry is making shops go this route, but because of the cost of items from shops, the industry is making the consumer look for less expensive alternatives, catch 22 unfortunately.

Checked the tread depth of the rear tire - 8 mm - Shinko Tourmaster. Will be maintaining 40 PSI front/rear, and using the Ride On Tire Sealant and Balancing formula. Prefer this over beads. Talked with the owner about this and he was not familiar with the product. He mentioned it was easier to put the Ride On fluid in the tire than the beads.

Installing new FIAMMS Freeway Blasters so needed a relay. Have a relay installed for the sense wire to the alternator. Have a relay installed for switched power to the new auxiliary fuse block installed in the rear trunk.

This fuse block is from Eastern Beaver and is a combined power and ground unit, extremely compact as well. It's the Power Center PC-8.

Using TESA abrasion resistant tape for the added wire. Much nicer than the standard vinyl tape, and easier to work with. Does a good job and looks good as well.

Have installed the GPS mount.

Going to install the rad tomorrow, and finish up the wiring required. I estimate a start up on Wednesday next, and a lot of road tests as shake down for the trip across.

More pics to follow.

Cheers


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Re: Ontario to British Columbia - Second '85 LTD

Post by gervais » Tue May 08, 2018 11:47 am

What a great ride,,

send us some pictures along the road Ernest,,,

"The Adventure of Ernest the Traveler"


Gervais

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Re: Ontario to British Columbia - Second '85 LTD

Post by Malm » Tue May 08, 2018 12:30 pm

Sounds like my brother and I...
We been riding together since 1971.
Have a great trip, lots of pictures!!
Common sense is NOT so common....

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Re: Ontario to British Columbia - Second '85 LTD

Post by Rednaxs60 » Wed May 09, 2018 8:32 pm

Got to work on the bike last Wednesday and rolled it out today for first road test. 7 days to do what I did to my other '85 LTD. Have some issues to get at, but was quite pleased with the work so far. Now that it is road worthy I can update my thread(s) on this trip. Took quite a few work pics so far. Air shocks are an issue right now. When I hit a bump felt like I was on a rigid HD. Could be a combination of fluid and air system, lots of threads on this issue. Will be taking lots of photos along the way as well. Looking forward to the trip.

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Re: Ontario to British Columbia - Second '85 LTD

Post by gervais » Wed May 09, 2018 9:48 pm

well ernest
"combination of fluid and air system"

would have the shematic of those shocks??

i have touch many things on my 1984 since i baught it and worked on it last winter but not their shocks,
is there a way to disgnostic them??

thanks

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Re: Ontario to British Columbia - Second '85 LTD

Post by rcgreg » Thu May 10, 2018 2:13 pm

Good luck Buudy, if you take Hwy 3 - instead of the quicker Hwy 1 - let me know

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Re: Ontario to British Columbia - Second '85 LTD

Post by Rednaxs60 » Fri May 11, 2018 9:39 am

rcgreg wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 2:13 pm
Good luck Buudy, if you take Hwy 3 - instead of the quicker Hwy 1 - let me know

Greg
Will do.

A short update. I have just about finished all the work on the bike.

I have done:

External alt mod
Replaced TPS - had to modify to fit with the alternator - no error codes
New FIAMM horns with relay
Alt sense wire relay
Wiring installed for driving lights - fit for but not with
Rebuilt clutch slave
New tires with angle valve stems
New accessory fuse block
New 30 amp fuse for the 30 amp CFI circuit
Removed and lubed up the rear drive train
GPS custom mount installed
Rebuilt all brake calipers
New brake pads all round
Installed new rear signal lights on the rear trunk light bar. PO had a second light bar with the end signal lights
Seat and passenger back rest recovered
New timing belts
New battery

Still on track for budget.

Brought a new thermistor for the fuel sending unit. Going to replace before I head out. Like the quantity and range function on the travel computer to work - very good feature.

The last 2 1/2 years with the other bike has allowed me to get this bike ready for the trip back to BC in short order. Gave myself a week for the work necessary to do first road test and made it. This was the first time in almost 5 years that the bike was on the road, not bad.

Have some pictures that were on my iPhone. Thought I had transferred them into a separate album but had not and deleted them off the phone. Apparently I have an iCloud account and the photos may be there. Next little project is to get them back.

Here is a look at the clutch slave. Lots of crud, it's a wonder it worked. The clutch MC had crud as well and had to scoop it out with Q-tips.




Here is the bike out of the garage before first road test:


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Re: Ontario to British Columbia - Second '85 LTD

Post by Ohara » Fri May 11, 2018 1:15 pm

Looking good. Nice to see you are on schedule.

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Re: Ontario to British Columbia - Second '85 LTD

Post by rcgreg » Sat May 12, 2018 8:33 am

Lots of flooding along HWY 3 now - check roads before deciding on your route !

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Re: Ontario to British Columbia - Second '85 LTD

Post by Rednaxs60 » Sat May 12, 2018 5:09 pm

Thanks - getting some small issues taken care of. The PO had a second rear trunk light bar - had a bit of damage - that had the corner signal lights. I have transferred these corner lights to the light bar on the bike and wired in with OEM connectors. Now have signal lights on the saddlebags and rear trunk, also looks symmetrical.

Have been out for a couple of road tests and it has been riding like a hard tail HD. When the bike is on the centre stand the shocks are extended to 13 1/2 inches. When the bike is off the centre stand the shocks are compressed to 12 inches with no bounce. Suspect fluid and spring issue. Don't have enough time to play with this, order parts, nor the tool(s) to take the shocks apart. Found a universal set 350 mm eye to eye shocks out of Australia that will do the trick. Will take the air shocks home for rebuild. Ordered Wednesday night and expect them here Monday/Tuesday.

Took the chrome pieces off the rear to get the shocks off - know that I did not have to do this - and will use the tin foil/water trick and clean these up. Works a treat on the chrome.

Have had to chase some threads. Highly recommend a small tap and die set as part of any tool kit for these older bikes. There are a few taps that should be bottoming taps as well. Here's my brother's kit - mine does not have as many nor do I need them:


Cheers
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Re: Ontario to British Columbia - Second '85 LTD

Post by tbeiler » Wed May 16, 2018 11:48 am

Hey Ernest, when are you looking to head on out west.

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Re: Ontario to British Columbia - Second '85 LTD

Post by EasyBadger » Wed May 16, 2018 7:35 pm

Hey Ernest,

If you are coming down Hyw1 after Calgary turn north on Hwy 22 for 10km to Cochrane. Let me know when you will be here. You are very welcome.

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Re: Ontario to British Columbia - Second '85 LTD

Post by rcgreg » Wed May 16, 2018 8:17 pm

Don't forget to sample the famous Cochrane Ice Cream !!

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Post by EasyBadger » Wed May 16, 2018 10:20 pm

Of course MacKay's world famous ice cream. It is a must when you are in the area.

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Re: Ontario to British Columbia - Second '85 LTD

Post by Rednaxs60 » Thu May 17, 2018 7:39 am

Do they have coconut cream pie at this establishment, and dark roast coffee? Thanks for the offer, will definitely be looking forward to getting out west and dropping in.

Short update. The shocks came in and are not as robust as I expected, but they will be better than riding on a hard tail. Air system is great but when it needs work can be a nightmare. Looking into rebuild costs for the air shocks and might just bite the bullet and install Progressive 412 as per my other bike.

Have it all together now, TPS adjusted. Going for a good ride today then down to Toronto tomorrow. Should get a good indication of how things will be. External alt mod is working well.

Bike is looking good and the engine is working well.

More later.
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Re: Ontario to British Columbia - Second '85 LTD

Post by Rednaxs60 » Fri May 18, 2018 7:45 am

Have the bike on the road. Went for a 200 Km ride yesterday, ran well, but the shocks are an issue. The air system is nice but I don't have time to do it justice. The shocks I ordered and put on are not robust enough for the weight of the bike. Have ordered a set of progressives as 5000 Kms with out good shocks will be a back injury waiting to happen. Upgrade of the shocks after 34 years and sitting for 5 years is not that bad.

For desertrefugee - got out and took some notable pictures of the ride yesterday. This area has a rich history in mining and is still an active area for such such as Kirkland Lake Gold and others. The Kerr Addison mine being one of the most notable in the area.

There is a memorial in Kirkland Lake to commemorate the memories of those who been lost to mining in the area:







The small town of Earlton just south of where my family is has a 9 ton sculpture of the North American Bison. When it was first done, it was anatomically correct, but local folks campaigned to have it less correct and it was suitably neutered to accommodate the local wishes:




Enjoy, Cheers
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Re: Ontario to British Columbia - Second '85 LTD

Post by gervais » Fri May 18, 2018 9:41 am

How long will you take to cross ,Ontario to BC ?

i am curious to know
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Post by Rednaxs60 » Fri May 18, 2018 10:17 am

I have done the trip in 5 days on my 1800 from Victoria to my brother's place here in Northern Ontario. Long days of about 1000 Km. I'll probably take 7 to 8 days on the way back, but once you hit the prairies not a lot going on until you get into BC.
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Re: Ontario to British Columbia - Second '85 LTD

Post by gervais » Fri May 18, 2018 10:29 am

well,
i have nver seen much outside of Quebec except once i have been in Cornwall at one mariage and received a ticket from the OPP ,,,i was on the highway at 100 km,,,thanks Ontario.

But far than Ontario never seen,maybe one day if i won the lotery,i would like to see Alberta hihn mountains and the prairies,,maybe one day!

gervais

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Post by Rednaxs60 » Fri May 18, 2018 12:55 pm

Takes a minimum of 2 days to transit Ontario, one good long day for the prairies, and two for BC in a car. Add a day or two when riding a bike. I have found that what takes 6 hours in a car will take 9 hours on a bike. Stop more often for gas, takes longer at stops because of the riding gear, and you stop more often to stretch. Cruise control is a must in my books for touring. Cheers
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Re: Ontario to British Columbia - Second '85 LTD

Post by julimike54 » Fri May 18, 2018 4:16 pm

Ernest,

Curious as to your normal drive time and mileage for an average day on the LTD? My drive time starts when I leave X and stops when I reach Y. Myself I prefer early departure and early retire.

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Post by Rednaxs60 » Fri May 18, 2018 5:50 pm

Mike - My drive time depends on the route, time to get to where I am going, do I have a passenger, and is there accommodations available. In 2015 when I came across from Victoria to here in northern Ontario, came across the upper states and didn't find a place until near 10 PM, went through a few small towns and every place was booked. Prefer about a 9 hour day especially this time of year when the days are quite long. I also only travel at about 100 to 110 KPH - like it around the 105 KPH (65 MPH) range, bike likes it as well. the other issue is the closer I get to home and if by myself, the more I will drive.

I'm also one for getting into a rhythm and when this happens, don't like to stop.

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Re: Ontario to British Columbia - Second '85 LTD

Post by gervais » Fri May 18, 2018 7:19 pm

Ernest
to bad you dont have friend radio-amateur,
we could have been able to follow you by using an APRS TRacker .

i have one on my GW here that i installed for fun.

APRS is a way to send data of a position .you need a vhf radio,a magnetic gps and an interface called tracker generally.

it would be fun and you xyl could follow you ahhhh

gervais.

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Re: Ontario to British Columbia - Second '85 LTD

Post by rcgreg » Fri May 18, 2018 8:49 pm

That would be cool !

73
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Re: Ontario to British Columbia - Second '85 LTD

Post by Rednaxs60 » Sat May 19, 2018 5:27 am

Have had a small setback. When I came back from the ride on Thursday, shut the bike off and it would not start. Checked the system and found the starter solenoid had failed. No worries, ordered a new one, received yesterday, installed checked to ensure correct operation, and hooked into starter. Went to start the bike and the starter draw took the battery down to 5 VDC from 12.6 VDC. Not good. Did this twice to confirm my worst suspicion.

Took the starter off, had installed new exhaust studs and washers, new pieces make work so much easier. Took the end off the starter and the internals are burnt, could smell it without being up close, and very discoloured. Also found a field coil screw head missing that allowed the field coil to float in the casing, not good either. I think the loose field coil was impinging on the armature and this contributed to the starter failure.

My issue with this is that I bought this as a refurbished starter in January 2016, had it fail on me in June 2016, and had it repaired under warranty in August 2016. Since then, this is the only bike it has been installed on, and I cannot think of a reason for the field coil screw to fail.

Regardless, I will be ordering up another starter and get the bike back on the road. I'm glad I have the time in my schedule to absorb this hiccup. Rescheduled a few visits and will get some additional work done for my Mother earlier than expected.

More to follow. Cheers


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