Resurrecting Grandpa's Wing


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Resurrecting Grandpa's Wing

Post by bigsteveswing » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:25 pm



I am new to this forum but have been reading for a while now. I, in a round about way, inherited my Grandpa's '92 Interstate. Saturday I finally got to go pick it up. It has been stored for years in a heated garage, but was very dirty. I can remember when he bought the bike new and it was treated like his baby from that time on until his passing in 2013. I am new to motorcycles but have wanted to get this back on the road for some time now. All I have done to it so far was wash it. I am building my list of to do items now. May take a year for me to have the time and $ to get it where I want it but I am looking forward to it.
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Just the way it sits, ready for transport
Just the way it sits, ready for transport


Just the way it sits, ready for transport
Just the way it sits, ready for transport


Loaded for the trip
Loaded for the trip


A much needed bath!
A much needed bath!




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Re: Resurrecting Grandpa's Wing

Post by virgilmobile » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:51 pm

Good looking bike.
Whatever you do...Please don't try to start it.After setting that long,there's a procedure to restore it and cranking it right up isn't the first thing.Very bad things can happen.
Grandpa was right...baby it.

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Re: Resurrecting Grandpa's Wing

Post by bigsteveswing » Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:02 pm

Thank you! Ya i have a whole list of stuff to do before ever attempting to start it. Timing belts, oil, coolant, filter, fuel tank...the list goes on and on.

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Re: Resurrecting Grandpa's Wing

Post by TwoTone Trike » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:48 am

Man what a beautiful rig. I love that side car. It looks good on there. Glad you have it, but sorry that you had to lose your grandpa to get it.

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Re: Resurrecting Grandpa's Wing

Post by NOVAwing » Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:56 am

bigsteveswing wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:25 pm
I am new to this forum but have been reading for a while now. I, in a round about way, inherited my Grandpa's '92 Interstate. Saturday I finally got to go pick it up. It has been stored for years in a heated garage, but was very dirty. I can remember when he bought the bike new and it was treated like his baby from that time on until his passing in 2013. I am new to motorcycles but have wanted to get this back on the road for some time now. All I have done to it so far was wash it. I am building my list of to do items now. May take a year for me to have the time and $ to get it where I want it but I am looking forward to it.
Congrats on the bike. Looks very well cared for.

Sorry about Grandpa, that always sucks, I miss mine often.

You have a loooong list of things to go over and clean/replace/tune.
But at least the bike is clean, and not rusty or scraped up like mine is lol.

See my other thread for the kind of things you will need to do to get it going,

Unlike me, start with replacing timing belt, if your competent doing this on a car, doing the bike is the same basically.

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=42314

Also, if your new to motorcycles, this is NOT the bike you should start riding with.
This bike is heavy, not sporty handling, and does not forgive poor decision making at all. This is an expert level touring bike, top of the food chain and price mark.

You should start training on a smaller, weaker, more nimble bike as soon as possible and work your way up.
Take a Motorcycle safety training course if you can.

Once your proficient and comfortable riding something smaller, and have some seat time under your belt, start taking short careful rides on the Wing to get used to its weight, handling, and power.

That's my advice, welcome to the club and keep us informed of your progress as you restore it to riding condition.

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Re: Resurrecting Grandpa's Wing

Post by bigsteveswing » Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:39 am

Thank you.
I have been following your journey for a while now. Because of your information, and others here, I know I am in for a lot of work, time, and $ spent.
I am signing up for a riding course as soon as I can get in.
I'm not in a hurry to ride the bike, just finally happy to be able to start working towards that goal. I have some buddies with smaller bikes that will let me get some seat time once I am done with the training course.
Thanks again and "stay tuned" for updates on progress.

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Re: Resurrecting Grandpa's Wing

Post by Stew » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:06 am

I'll be watching too, I enjoy following progress on 'build threads'. I was handed down my fathers 1500 back in October and for as well cared for as it was I've ended up having to do a lot more maintenance than I was expecting as well as fixing a couple of things. But now that all that is pretty much caught up she's running good and it's mostly just hop on and ride now. Another thing I've realized is that although I've been working on cars for about as long as I've been driving and can fix most anything, this forum is full of some real experts on these Goldwings and can help you figure out just about anything, everyone's been super helpful to me.
Winging it every chance I get 8-)

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Re: Resurrecting Grandpa's Wing

Post by NOVAwing » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:19 am

Glad both of you have been following along.

Nice to pay it forward.

Big Steve, sounds good on your training plans, good luck and be safe.

Your bike may not need as much as I have gone through as mine was not as well cared for and lived outside.

Your looking at timing belt, plus all fluids changed, air filters, drain and fill fuel tank, and maybe tires depending.

The Seafoam fixed my carbs fairly well without resorting to Berryman's B12, I am impressed.

Hopefully you don't have a rear master cylinder to rebuild like I am about to do :evil:

Looking forward to hearing how it goes for you.

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Re: Resurrecting Grandpa's Wing

Post by bigsteveswing » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:38 am

I pulled the fuel pump last night and will be draining/siphoning out the remaining fuel soon. Actually looks pretty good in there considering age, looks like stabil was added, but I didn't want to chance pumping trash thru the pump and into the carbs. I think I am going disassemble things to get to the air filter,sub filter, and fuel filter next.

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Re: Resurrecting Grandpa's Wing

Post by RockportDave » Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:17 pm

Welcome and congrats on your new adventure. I’m sure your grandpa would be glad you’ve taken an interest in resurrecting the Wing.
Get a service manual also. It along with everyone here will guide you through. I like to know what not to do as much as how to do things and Virgilmobile’s advice not to start it until it’s ready is spot on. I’ve saved a lot of time and money by following the advice of folks here.
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Re: Resurrecting Grandpa's Wing

Post by bigsteveswing » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:27 am

I know it's been quite some time since I've posted but I have some updates/questions for the masses.

Updates:
1. All filters done, (previously installed k&n air filter cleaned and re-oiled), fuel filter and sub filter replaced.
2. Hour of work removing mouse nest debris from the top of the engine, really hoping the little monsters didn't wreck anything...
3. Timing belts replaced.
4. Waiting on new fuel pump gasket before adding some new ethanol free fuel, seafoam, and stabil.
5. Passed my riding course and got my license. Thinking next year I might sign up for the PA 3 wheel training course and use my bike for that, just for the experience, plus it's free.

Still have several things to do before riding but hopefully before winter I can get it at least started and make sure everything works. Then I will know I'm not wasting bunches of money going further.

Things yet to do before starting the engine:
1. Bleed clutch and brakes
2. Replace battery
3. Refill coolant
4. Oil and filter change

I found out through some family members that the rear master cylinder was rebuilt the summer of 2012, have yet to test it out but with the bike on the jack now it will be easy to test then bleed.
Also found out that the oil was changed at the same time and virtually no miles since then.

Questions:
1. Since I have to start the bike to get all of the coolant replaced that I drained, would I be OK to start it and get it up to temp with the oil that is in it and some seafoam, then change it, or should I just change it before running the engine at all?
2. With the bike on the jack the front wheel has some drag when spun, is this normal or do I have a brake possibly dragging or something more serious? I know the front brake handle works good from moving the bike off the trailer.

Probably more just can't think of any right now. Apologies for being long winded.

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Re: Resurrecting Grandpa's Wing

Post by Rednaxs60 » Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:11 am

Welcome and congrats on bringing your grandfather's bike back to life and on the road.

Don't worry about running the engine to get all the coolant out, just refill it now, run it for a year then change again. All will be well.

There is a cruise air filter on the left side of the bike as well that you may want to change, not a show stopper but you did change the other two.

Recommend refreshing the air compressor desiccant. Good DIY thread by Wingadmin on this forum.

When you bleed the brakes, the rear brake is linked with the left front. Bleed the front brake first then the rear.

Fork oil change should also go on your list. When you do this, renew the parts and pieces, everything wears over time.

I would replace the brake pads and check the "boot pin" - #17 on the parts fiche. I call this a pivot pin as it allows the caliper to float and self adjust. This pin will bind after years of use and not being used. There is one on the rear caliper as well. May want to pull the calipers off and check this, cleaning this one piece will make a difference. You don't have to rebuild the caliper if the pistons move freely.

Since the bike has been sitting for a while the brake and clutch fluid will emulsify because the fluid absorbs water. You may want to consider rebuilding the calipers because of this. Parts are reasonable, and you will know that the brakes are in good shape.

The clutch slave cylinder on the back of the engine may need a look at. Any crud in the clutch system tends to accumulate in the clutch slave:


This was the one off an '85 Limited Edition that I put back on the road. Not saying the one on your bike would be the same, but it is something to consider. No amount of flushing of the clutch system will remove this crud, parts are maybe $25.00 to rebuild and clean this slave cylinder.

I installed a shifter brace from Cyclemax. This is a highly recommended mod because of the shift lever extension. If you consider this, may want to change the shifter engine oil seal as well.

Again, congratulations and good luck.

Cheers
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Re: Resurrecting Grandpa's Wing

Post by bigsteveswing » Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:47 am

Rednaxs60 wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:11 am
Welcome and congrats on bringing your grandfather's bike back to life and on the road.

Don't worry about running the engine to get all the coolant out, just refill it now, run it for a year then change again. All will be well.

There is a cruise air filter on the left side of the bike as well that you may want to change, not a show stopper but you did change the other two.

Recommend refreshing the air compressor desiccant. Good DIY thread by Wingadmin on this forum.

When you bleed the brakes, the rear brake is linked with the left front. Bleed the front brake first then the rear.

Fork oil change should also go on your list. When you do this, renew the parts and pieces, everything wears over time.

I would replace the brake pads and check the "boot pin" - #17 on the parts fiche. I call this a pivot pin as it allows the caliper to float and self adjust. This pin will bind after years of use and not being used. There is one on the rear caliper as well. May want to pull the calipers off and check this, cleaning this one piece will make a difference. You don't have to rebuild the caliper if the pistons move freely.

Since the bike has been sitting for a while the brake and clutch fluid will emulsify because the fluid absorbs water. You may want to consider rebuilding the calipers because of this. Parts are reasonable, and you will know that the brakes are in good shape.

The clutch slave cylinder on the back of the engine may need a look at. Any crud in the clutch system tends to accumulate in the clutch slave:Clutch Slave 4.jpgThis was the one off an '85 Limited Edition that I put back on the road. Not saying the one on your bike would be the same, but it is something to consider. No amount of flushing of the clutch system will remove this crud, parts are maybe $25.00 to rebuild and clean this slave cylinder.

I installed a shifter brace from Cyclemax. This is a highly recommended mod because of the shift lever extension. If you consider this, may want to change the shifter engine oil seal as well.

Again, congratulations and good luck.

Cheers
Thank you sir.

No cruise or air compressor on the Interstate, so that's a couple less things to worry about, no reverse tho :(
I hope to get the engine running and then verify the clutch works once bled, then hopefully over winter i can put the time in to slave cylinder maintenance, fork oil change (I will take the caps off and add schraeder valves at that time) and the like knowing I have a running driving platform to start with. Definitely looking at doing the shifter brace at some point too. Again just want to make sure everything runs and works before dropping a bunch more $$ only to find some major issue.
Long term outlook would be fork springs and rear suspension too. Bigger $ items.

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Re: Resurrecting Grandpa's Wing

Post by Rednaxs60 » Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:27 am

bigsteveswing wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:47 am

Thank you sir.

No cruise or air compressor on the Interstate, so that's a couple less things to worry about, no reverse tho :(
I hope to get the engine running and then verify the clutch works once bled, then hopefully over winter i can put the time in to slave cylinder maintenance, fork oil change (I will take the caps off and add schraeder valves at that time) and the like knowing I have a running driving platform to start with. Definitely looking at doing the shifter brace at some point too. Again just want to make sure everything runs and works before dropping a bunch more $$ only to find some major issue.
Long term outlook would be fork springs and rear suspension too. Bigger $ items.
Did the suspension upgrade as well. Bike came with a Superbrace installed, but hear and read that the Black Wing Fork Brace is supposed to be better. Maybe something in the future for my bike. Put Progressive springs in the front and Progressive 416 series air on the back. The ride is firmer, but that is to be expected from new suspension. Use approximately 20 PSI for solo riding and 50 PSI for two up at this time. Wingadmin provided 20 PSI solo and 30-35 PSI two up. Still adjusting to suit.

The install of the rear Progressive shocks went very well. Instructions are quite good.

Bought my '95 1500 in July with 154,000 Kms on it and the engine is operating quite well. Not too concerned with the Kms on the engine, it's generally the non-engine parts and pieces that give a person grief. Had a maintenance list already put together that included suspension upgrade. Refurb of front forks, suspension upgrade, new brake pads, LED headlights, filters, HO alternator (not installed yet), and fluids , etc has added some $1400.00 CDN to the price of the bike. Need new tires next year, and bearings all round. Not much else to do after this. As long as the engine keeps ticking, should be a good ride for quite some time.

Forgot to mention that removing the rear drive and lubing the splines with a good moly paste/grease should be considered. Good time to do the brake calipers all round as well.

Cheers


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