Bike runs for 30 seconds and shuts off


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Bike runs for 30 seconds and shuts off

Post by GaryRatliff » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:23 am



I posted earlier but still no resolve. 2001 Goldwing 1800ABS. Bike decided not to start. I initially assumed the battery was dead. I jumped it and it runs for about 30 seconds and then shuts off. I replaced the battery but will still only start with jump. Again, it shuts off after about 30 seconds. If I turn the key to the start position, I have nothing. If I turn it to the acc position, the startup menu comes up. I have checked the accessible connections that I can find and everything seems tight but I am FARRRRR from being a mechanic. Fuses are all good. I have an alternator ordered but it looks like a definite mechanic job considering how tight it is in there. I would love to avoid towing it to a shop and paying to have the alternator replaced if there is something simple I may be missing. Any thoughts?

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Re: Bike runs for 30 seconds and shuts off

Post by virgilmobile » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:28 am

A question...When it shuts off does everything do dead?
Dash,lights,horn,etc...or just some things...or just the engine dies...
I do mean right as it shuts down...
What does it take to restart it?
You say jumping it gets it started.Are you removing the jumper cables right away...
Do you have a volt meter to monitor the battery voltage when it's running.?
Even a new battery won't keep a wing running very long if not being charged...
In fact..the battery's main purpose is to start the bike and keep the voltage stable..All the electrical demands are supposed to be met by the alternator.

Sorry I'm rambling on but it sounds like your battery isn't being charged by the bikes alternator for whatever reason.

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Re: Bike runs for 30 seconds and shuts off

Post by GaryRatliff » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:45 am

Thanks for your reply.

When it shuts off, everything goes off! Restarting requires putting the jumper box back on it. I do not have a voltage meter to check it and embarrassingly, wouldn't know how to use it if I did :(. Confession, I did not charge the new battery prior to installing it; I was at a campsite without electricity. I "assumed" (yes, I know) the new battery was fully charged when I got it.


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Re: Bike runs for 30 seconds and shuts off

Post by virgilmobile » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:09 pm

If you want to prove the no charge problem.Jump the bike off again but this time leave the jumpers hooked up.The vehicle your jumping it with needs to be running.See if it keeps going with the jump vehicle providing power.It will die soon after the jumper is removed.
The bike takes about 20 amp to run the ignition and lights.
By the way....
Ya can't drive it this way without a really long cord :roll:
If you're using a jump box..it will run it down too...

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Re: Bike runs for 30 seconds and shuts off

Post by GaryRatliff » Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:30 pm

Lol on the "long cord." It normally stops running before I even get to disconnect the charge box. I can start it again with the box connected so I'm confident the box is good. I don't know if this is significant or not but to get to my campsite, I had about 2 miles or so of gravel road so there was a lot of vibration but none of the connections that I can see or feel seem to be affected.

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Re: Bike runs for 30 seconds and shuts off

Post by virgilmobile » Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:33 pm

Wait.....you can start it right back up ?

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Re: Bike runs for 30 seconds and shuts off

Post by GaryRatliff » Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:38 pm

Yes, but only with charger and then it will shut down again after about 30 seconds. Nothing without charger.

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Re: Bike runs for 30 seconds and shuts off

Post by virgilmobile » Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:57 pm

Do you have to wait a while to start it again.Are you charging the jump box?
Does the jump box have a volt meter on it or a indicator lamp?
Maybe have to push a button to see it?

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Re: Bike runs for 30 seconds and shuts off

Post by virgilmobile » Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:08 pm

If I turn the key to the start position, I have nothing./quote]
I'm no GL1800 wizzard but isn't the lights suppose to come on when you turn the key to the start position?
Does this bike use the same "Main" relay that the 1500's use....
They are know for problems...
If it is...swap the main relay for another one.

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Re: Bike runs for 30 seconds and shuts off

Post by virgilmobile » Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:29 pm

This charger.What is it...Do you hook it to the battery terminals?

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Re: Bike runs for 30 seconds and shuts off

Post by virgilmobile » Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:40 pm

Lemme guess...The "emergency jump box" you're using plugs into a power outlet.anf isnt connected to the bikes battery at all..This is why you only have power in the accessory position...then you start the bike and the whole thing is running off the jump box through the accessory circuit..(it won't last long)... Your main battery is dead and won't even light up the bike without the jump box plugged in...

Am I getting this right?

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Re: Bike runs for 30 seconds and shuts off

Post by GaryRatliff » Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:18 pm

No, it's a "Halo." It is a box that you charge up and it retains it's charging capability. I've used it on cars and motorcycles. It has terminal ends that attaches to the battery just like jumper cables.

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Re: Bike runs for 30 seconds and shuts off

Post by virgilmobile » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:31 pm

Ok..Sorry to keep bugging you but....
What I get from this is that the Halo box is providing power to start the bike and auto shuts off removing power from the jump leads thus killing the electric feed to the battery.The bike dies because the battery is dead and not being charged..Cycling the key restarts the jump box cycle again... Providing power to start it and then shuts it's self off.
Since and repeat.
Does this sound like the way the Halo works?
If so..you have a charging problem...
I got confused about the jump box...It's different than mine...It's a big Honker that has full battery power all the time on the leads...Very low tech...
I guess that this design uses a smart circuit so it won't get back fed a charging voltage and blow it up....

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Re: Bike runs for 30 seconds and shuts off

Post by themainviking » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:41 pm

Ergo, if what you and Virgil have described is correct, then you do need a volt meter, AND probably a battery. If you have a new battery, and can start the bike, then you need to be able to determine if the charging system is operational, and this requires the volt meter. It ain't difficult. With the bike running, and the voltmeter in the DC (direct current) position, when the positive probe is on the positive battery terminal and the negative probe is touched to the negative battery terminal, the reading on the meter should be between 13 and 14.2 volts.
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Re: Bike runs for 30 seconds and shuts off

Post by GaryRatliff » Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:57 pm

Sorry for the delayed post. Well, call me a fool. I ordered the alternator and towed the bike to my mechanic. Turns out, it was in fact just the battery. The battery I bought when the problem first occurred was apparently bad. Anyway, bike was fixed and Gary's happy again. Thanks for your imput. Time for me to invest in a volt meter and of course, learn how to use one, lol.



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