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Time for a 3D printer?

Post by WingAdmin » Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:51 am



I had the satellite antenna on my satellite radio fail last month. I actually thought it was the cradle that was the problem. My radio was many years old, and had been sitting in the sun and rain for a long time, so I just went out and bought a whole new radio, which included a cradle and antenna. An extra bonus, the new radio gets more channels than the old one, at no extra charge.

I put the new radio and cradle on the bike, plugged in the old antenna - and had the same problem. I was about to leave on a trip, so I took the new antenna, threw it up on the glareshield, zip tied the wire temporarily onto the bike, and left. It worked fine.

Yesterday I tore things apart to install it properly. The radio is mounted on my handlebars, so I run all the wiring for it inside the handlebar covers (where all the switch wiring goes through). In order to do so, I had to pull the handlebar covers off. To do that, there is a little piece of plastic that screws in place on the back that has to be removed first:

Handlebar cover plate
Handlebar cover plate

This piece of plastic is in kind of a "C" shape, and the arms of it hook into grooves on the cover to keep the cover in place. It then has a screw on each end that screws into the handlebar.

Mine have been removed a few times, and are pretty bent up and old. When I was putting everything back together and screwing this into place...SNAP. It broke.

Ah well, I'll just get a new one, it's a little bitty piece of plastic, can't cost more than a buck or two, right? Might as well replace both while I'm at it, as the other one is pretty bent, too.

I go to Cyclemax's OEM parts site to look up the part number (53111-MAM-A60ZE). The price? $38! Each!!

Not in this lifetime am I paying $76 for about 10 cents worth of plastic.

I'm strongly thinking that it's time to start looking at 3D printers.



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Re: Time for a 3D printer?

Post by virgilmobile » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:00 pm

Guess what...I just made a replacement for mine...Ya want the model file.?
A pain to print it in ABS plastic due to inherent shrinking but I resolved that too.

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Re: Time for a 3D printer?

Post by virgilmobile » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:13 pm

By the way...Due to the cost of a top of the line printer that can print large objects I opted for a DIY kit...Lots of adjustments and tinkering but cost effective...and there's plenty of online support of which some of it is wrong.
It's the original Anet A8..not the Korean look alike.
I only got it for other needs(custom prothetic supports) and not for the bike parts...
Already having a good computer,my investment amounted to around $225.
Also..... remember...these are printed in very fine filament strands melted together (0.1mm)...There not at all like the injected molded parts...They do look good enough for the parts needed.
The cover I printed does not have the "grain" look of the OEM parts...

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Re: Time for a 3D printer?

Post by virgilmobile » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:18 am

Y'all wanted to see.
Each layer of the part is 0.1mm thick..
It's about 180mm long , 25mm wide and 5mm thick..
This amounts to 50 layers it has to print.
The extruder travels up to 60 mm/second.
The part will take a bit over 3 hours.
Total time on the printer for the texture mat and both parts is 10 hours.



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Re: Time for a 3D printer?

Post by Uncle Fester » Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:56 am

I broke that same piece, and for now I used thin zip ties (3 of them) on each side to keep everything closed up like it should be.

I have not done it yet, but I decided I am taking the rubber bar covers off the bike , putting the wires in wire split loom, and calling that good, no more rubber bar covers. . . . !
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Re: Time for a 3D printer?

Post by FM-USA » Sun Jul 08, 2018 5:35 am

Few years back I added a couple wires to the left bar and like others had similar refitment issues.
What I did was Dremel out a little more space for these wires. Sloppy looking sure but unseen on the outside.
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Re: Time for a 3D printer?

Post by urbanmadness » Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:15 pm

I too have been thinking about a 3d printer (and a cnc router mill). My problem is, I cant justify either. In my "spare" time, I also fly Quad copters and I have been thinking about applications for that particular hobby. It's not the money, so much, it's space.

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Re: Time for a 3D printer?

Post by virgilmobile » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:35 pm

The only way I could justify the cost was to be able to make something that is not avaiable anywhere...
I initially wanted one to make something for my Goldwing however it wasn't worth the cost of the printer..let alone the many hours learning how to 3D model in a computer program (of which I still don't work in CAD) and get to the final steps to send it to the printer...
Trust me..theres a big difference between getting a 3D model off the internet and printing it and making your own ideas come to life.
What did justify the cost was being able to make stuff for my better half to help in her rehabilitation of muscle control in her right hand after her stroke...
Stuff for the bike is extra..$225 to print a couple of plastic retainer strips???NO WAY...Print a custom fitted finger support for my wife so she can use her hand..PRICLESS..
Working with PLA and ABS plastics,I have found some really neat applications other than "trinkets" that set on the table.
I actually have plenty of space...The problem is the smell...PLA isn't too bad but melting ABS gets pretty noxious...It sets in a screened porch with a fan..

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Re: Time for a 3D printer?

Post by FM-USA » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:13 pm

In days of old, I made finger splints from plastic milk jugs. Propane torch & the mold was a broom stick.

Other items? Assembled odd shapes with duct tape & used 2 or 3 layers of Jersey Gloves to hold it around the mold. Final tweeking was done with a quick spot melting. Sure the part was rough but it was usually unseen.

System still works good today but doing it less. 2 part 5 min. epoxy is almost a wet dream. ;)

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Re: Time for a 3D printer?

Post by RBGERSON » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:39 am

WOW..I thought 3D printers were hundreds if not thousands of dollars ..who knew you can have one for $140...and can make upgrades for it on it for next to nothing.

Not that I need one, just what a cool toy..

Although in watching a few utube guys it seems getting it running well is a bit of a challenge.
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Re: Time for a 3D printer?

Post by virgilmobile » Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:10 am

In the last couple of months,I have learned the "tricks" to get the DIY printer to do exactly what I want.I spend more time at the computer modeling than setting the printer.
Getting a DIY printer set up...
Well first thing is to be certain you get the original..I've heard of problems with the "look alike" one's..Mine cost about $200 shipped.
Assembly , mods and alignment are done at the same time...Expect a all day project.
What gets you is the extras you need...
More filament
A 3/4" plywood base to mount it on
A better spool frame and spindle.
Some brackets to secure it.
New type of linear bearings.
Extra parts.



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