Strange thing only when I pull trailer


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Rockdog
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Strange thing only when I pull trailer

Post by Rockdog » Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:16 pm



Is it normal for the bike to feel like the front shakes a little as it goes around a sharp corner slowly while pulling my trailer? It didn't feel like it was doing it when I first started pulling the trailer.....trailer hitch is good...... tongue weight is good ....tires properly inflated maybe 75 lbs of stuff in trailer........or is it just the goldwing wobble......tires are pretty new...3000 miles.....I've ridden to work and back home for the last 3 weeks with the trailer on the bike....road without trailer last weekend and it didn't do this Symptom......what do you guys think.....



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Re: Strange thing only when I pull trailer

Post by AZgl1800 » Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:12 pm

the only abnormal thing I have experienced is when I first got my wood box trailer.

it had been narrowed and the owner cut the axle and patched it back together himself.
him being a carpenter, did not lend well to the results.

also, he cut the tongue "short to pull behind his trike".... bad mistake.

it dog wagged its' tail so bad, it pulled my 1800 enough to keep me below 55 mph.

I cut that axle off, and had a new custom axle built with hubs as part of the axle, they also drilled in the holes for the bearings to get grease from the rear, not the front of the hub.... and installed a zerk fitting in the very end of that axle.

dispensed with the narrow HF wheels, bought real trailer wheels and tires, 5.80x8 to replace them with.

added a swivel hitch so that the tongue would be longer. removed the spare from the rear underneath, and hung that from the tongue 12 inches behind the hitch.

Made a tremendous difference: I can go through twisties as fast as anyone else that is not pulling a trailer, and I don't even feel it behind me.

It has seen temporary speeds in excess of 110 mph while passing trucks, the GPS lie detector revealed that number... I was not looking at the speedometer.

I have hauled it several thousand miles and it tracks true as a die....

I have good tires, used to have an E3 that ended with 14,000 miles on it, and it was the front tire used while pulling the trailer. the rear tire has been a Michelin RF car tire the whole time.
~John

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Re: Strange thing only when I pull trailer

Post by DenverWinger » Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:50 am

I experience that myself (Goldwing wobble) at very slow speed with the trailer (such as making a right turn from a stop sign on city streets). This happens with both the 1100 and 1500. The trailer otherwise pulls very well, it has a long tongue and I keep the load balanced so there's only 20-40 lbs on the hitch even if trailer + cargo is around 550#. At highway speeds I hardly notice the trailer is behind me, even with cruise control maxxed out at 80MPH.

Thinking the Blackwing Fork Brace will help a lot with the low speed wobble, even without the trailer. I should get one......
They say 98% of all Hardleys ever made are still on the road..... The other 2% made it home. :lol:
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Re: Strange thing only when I pull trailer

Post by themainviking » Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:04 pm

I had that happen when I pulled the tent trailer with my GL1800, and also, I could get the bike to speed wobble pretty easily at speed. The trailer was heavy enough to wag the bike. I had to be attentive while towing. With my light cargo trailer, it does not happen. I think it could be an inherent problem if the trailer is heavy enough to affect the bikes stabilization.
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Re: Strange thing only when I pull trailer

Post by DenverWinger » Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:24 am

Actually, what I experience on a low speed tight turn with the trailer I wouldn't call a "wobble" because it doesn't oscillate, it just feels extra "sloppy". As stated, I think a fork brace would fix it.
They say 98% of all Hardleys ever made are still on the road..... The other 2% made it home. :lol:
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Re: Strange thing only when I pull trailer

Post by Rockdog » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:39 pm

Well..... I think I figured it out.....I had about a hundred pounds in the trailer and had to transfer most of it out.....then rode home with it basically empty.......needless to say the tires aren't balanced very well....I could see it bouncing some on the way home quite a bit up to about 25mph.....anyway there it is folks...mystery solved...thanks for the ideas on what it could be...

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Re: Strange thing only when I pull trailer

Post by AZgl1800 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 7:00 pm

put some Dyna Beads in those trailer tires.

gonna hazard a guess at 3 or 4 oz as they are pretty small, and if out of balance, it will be quite a lot.

more does not hurt, too little and it won't work.
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Re: Strange thing only when I pull trailer

Post by Rockdog » Mon Aug 20, 2018 5:52 pm

Yep..... that was my next move or take them to Les Schwab to get balanced



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