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CSC Escapade Air Shocks Leak?

Post by Ray&Paula » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:16 am



Hi, I have a 2004 CSC Escapade trailer which I purchased new back in 2004. I have a slow air leak somewhere and can't find it in the oem Progressive air shock lines. I tightened the lines and checked all the fittings and valve stem with soap & water....... nothing. I'm hoping that it's not a shock seal issue, but it's starting to look that way. If its the Progressive shocks, I heard that they are around $400.00 for a pair new......... Yikes! Maybe they can be rebuilt, if not I may have to look for an alternative. Have you experienced this problem? If so, did you find a fix? Any help and/or thoughts would be most appreciated. Thanks, Ray



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Re: CSC Escapade Air Shocks Leak?

Post by Ray&Paula » Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:01 am

I received an email back last night from Progressive in which I asked them the following questions;
1) How can I tell what the actual air shock part number is?
2) Does Progressive offer any instructions for rebuilding?
3) Do you carry the air lines, connectors, etc.?

Response from Progressive;
Hi Ray,
We offer a rebuild kit for 26.00 but we are out right now. You can do it yourself. If your shocks are out of the year warranty, we do not rebuild them any longer. For the airlines, we sell them, but there is about a month lead time right now.  
If there is not a sticker on the shock with the part #, you will have to call CSC. I need the part # of the shock to give you the connectors, and tubing you need. I have attached the instructions.
We do not have fitment for trailers, we sell CSC a private label shock, so give them the model of trailer to see if they offer it.

I'm a little concerned about part availability and/or shock replacement. I.M.O. it's a little odd to have everything on back order. I'm going to contact CSC for a response. Hopefully there is another shock out there for us CSC owner's for an alternative. If there is, I haven't heard of it. Personally, I wouldn't mind an adjustable shock without air.

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Re: CSC Escapade Air Shocks Leak?

Post by Ray&Paula » Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:36 pm

Wow...... Nobody????

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Re: CSC Escapade Air Shocks Leak?

Post by MikeB » Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:18 pm

You received lots of advise on the GL1800 board. I added my two cents worth as well. What is the outcome so far of your search for answers?
Did you order any rebuild kits for the shocks? I ordered a set and received them last week.
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Re: CSC Escapade Air Shocks Leak?

Post by Ray&Paula » Sat Sep 29, 2018 6:33 am

MikeB wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:18 pm
You received lots of advise on the GL1800 board. I added my two cents worth as well. What is the outcome so far of your search for answers?
Did you order any rebuild kits for the shocks? I ordered a set and received them last week.
Hi Mike,
Yes, I received great advise from you as well as others on the other forum. The air line kits are available but, I haven't found the re-build kits. Could you tell me where you received your from? Thanks for a; your help and advise. Ray :)

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Re: CSC Escapade Air Shocks Leak?

Post by MikeB » Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:02 am

I sent you a private message Ray.

Dang, I see I spelled ADVICE wrong yesterday. Oh well.
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Re: CSC Escapade Air Shocks Leak?

Post by jmoraniii » Tue May 07, 2019 1:26 pm

Well I've had the same issue as everyone else. I rebuilt one of my shocks and blew the top oring out with 35 lbs. of air. After hours of online shopping and calls to Monroe and Gabriel shocks found they don't make a shock that will work on my Escapade trailer. Tech support at Gabriel did give me the # for A1Shock in CO. 970 389-3193. I talked to Mark gave him the measurements for my shock and they will use my eyes and posts to build a set of air shocks with a 5 year guarantee for $265 plus shipping. Not the price I wanted to pay but a broken trailer doesn't help me either. CSC nor Progressive have been able to come up with a solution to get my trailer back on the road. Special made discontinued parts are a big problem that neither co. have been able to resolve as of now. I will update this post after the long trip I have planned for this summer.

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Re: CSC Escapade Air Shocks Leak?

Post by Joe Jones » Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:46 am

I called California Sidecar about the air shocks on my Escapade trailer failing to hold air AGAIN. They are "aware" of the air shock leaking issue, and they no longer offer the air shocks for sale, or the rebuild kits either.

Ooooo-kaaaaayyyyy ... so then , since this HAS been an issue since 2012 that *I* know of, when my used Escapade trailer's shocks failed, and California Sidecar express shipped a new set of shocks to me at some Sticksville motel in middle America, now THOSE shocks are also toast.

So I called and they told me they are working with Progressive suspensions to get a replacement shock that is a double coil over shock that does not use air at all. Progressive missed an April delivery window (according to CA Sidecar) and they hope to have the new shocks in stock "in four to eight weeks."

Ummm ... WHY wasn't this issue addressed A LONG TIME AGO? Everyone who owns these trailers LOVES them, but everyone also deals with the shocks inability to hold air pressure under a load. It would seem to me that a solution would have been found AT LEAST five years ago!

So I went in search of a replacement shock myself. With the help of my good and knowledgeable friend Dave O'Conner, we hopped around all of the local auto parts stores in search of a solution that will get me on the road by Saturday morning at the LATEST.

Dave made some calls while we pondered the situation inside, and he found a Monroe Air Shock that is a pretty darn close replacement, according to the 'best guess' on the specs. The compressed length and the extended length are slightly different, but I do not believe it will cause an issue. I ordered two of them. One will be here tomorrow morning from Nashville. The other (hopefully) will arrive around Noon from another location up north.

I am going to mount these shocks on my Escapade and load it up to see how it rides. If these shocks WORK, I will share the part number and photos with y'all. (I live in Kentucky now!)

I am growing weary of the constant delays. I am nearly a MONTH late in leaving for this tour!

Joe

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Re: CSC Escapade Air Shocks Leak?

Post by MikeB » Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:14 am

Thanks Joe. Looking forward to see how it all turns out.
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Re: CSC Escapade Air Shocks Leak?

Post by Ray&Paula » Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:02 am

Joe Jones wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:46 am
I called California Sidecar about the air shocks on my Escapade trailer failing to hold air AGAIN. They are "aware" of the air shock leaking issue, and they no longer offer the air shocks for sale, or the rebuild kits either.

Ooooo-kaaaaayyyyy ... so then , since this HAS been an issue since 2012 that *I* know of, when my used Escapade trailer's shocks failed, and California Sidecar express shipped a new set of shocks to me at some Sticksville motel in middle America, now THOSE shocks are also toast.

So I called and they told me they are working with Progressive suspensions to get a replacement shock that is a double coil over shock that does not use air at all. Progressive missed an April delivery window (according to CA Sidecar) and they hope to have the new shocks in stock "in four to eight weeks."

Ummm ... WHY wasn't this issue addressed A LONG TIME AGO? Everyone who owns these trailers LOVES them, but everyone also deals with the shocks inability to hold air pressure under a load. It would seem to me that a solution would have been found AT LEAST five years ago!

So I went in search of a replacement shock myself. With the help of my good and knowledgeable friend Dave O'Conner, we hopped around all of the local auto parts stores in search of a solution that will get me on the road by Saturday morning at the LATEST.

Dave made some calls while we pondered the situation inside, and he found a Monroe Air Shock that is a pretty darn close replacement, according to the 'best guess' on the specs. The compressed length and the extended length are slightly different, but I do not believe it will cause an issue. I ordered two of them. One will be here tomorrow morning from Nashville. The other (hopefully) will arrive around Noon from another location up north.

I am going to mount these shocks on my Escapade and load it up to see how it rides. If these shocks WORK, I will share the part number and photos with y'all. (I live in Kentucky now!)

I am growing weary of the constant delays. I am nearly a MONTH late in leaving for this tour!

Joe

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Hi Joe,
I hope the air shocks you have coming works out for you......... For more info and or another alternative check out the following thread;
https://www.theglforum.com/forum/motorc ... hocks-leak

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Re: CSC Escapade Air Shocks Leak?

Post by Joe Jones » Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:49 pm

I spent ALL DAY installing the Monroe air shocks. What a $%^& chore! Still, they are installed.

Now, I do not believe they are THE solution, because I still have an issue to resolve. See, air shocks are meant to ASSIST springs or suspension, and not BE the suspension. So my first test ride was ... weird. I rounded a corner, and the trailer tipped to one side, as one shock's load was lessened while the other shock's load was increased. Apparently the air found it's way through the small tubes and I suddenly had a East L.A. Low Rider trailer! The air pressure equalized after a distance, and the trailer leveled out, but this is not ideal.

A phone call to CSC revealed that the dual coil over gas shock IS on the way. Maybe two weeks? Maybe more? I could leave with this wonky test install and have the correct replacement shocks shipped to me in CommieFornia in a few weeks.

Another option (looking more attractive at the moment) is to just buy a NEW trailer from a different manufacturer, and deal with my Escapade suspension issues when I return. Then I could sell one or the other, or just keep both.

I am not happy now. More delays. Tonight IF I have the energy, I will load up my trailer (again) with everything I am taking, and fill the shocks with air to see how it behaves. My friend Dave and CSC both suggested splitting the air lines, so the shocks are independently inflated. Well, that MIGHT work, but I would much prefer the CORRECT solution.

I will post some photos later.

Joe

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Re: CSC Escapade Air Shocks Leak?

Post by MikeB » Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:22 pm

Joe Jones wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:49 pm
I spent ALL DAY installing the Monroe air shocks. What a $%^& chore! Still, they are installed.

.... I rounded a corner, and the trailer tipped to one side, as one shock's load was lessened while the other shock's load was increased. Apparently the air found it's way through the small tubes and I suddenly had a East L.A. Low Rider trailer! The air pressure equalized after a distance, and the trailer leveled out, but this is not ideal.

…. My friend Dave and CSC both suggested splitting the air lines, so the shocks are independently inflated. Well, that MIGHT work, but I would much prefer the CORRECT solution.
Yes, splitting the air lines so that you have two independent lines, one per shock, should stop that lean.

Also, have you read through the posts at https://www.theglforum.com/forum/motorc ... hocks-leak ?

It appears to be a sure fix to the problem using coil over shocks. And, it is most reasonable price wise.
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Re: CSC Escapade Air Shocks Leak?

Post by Joe Jones » Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:17 pm

The Monroe air shocks did not work out. I bought the Monroe 58275 coil over shocks instead, and made a spring pre-loader spacer for them to handle the weight of the load.

I solved the problem for $60.00

Joe














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