Shoei Neotec II Helmet - First Impressions


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Shoei Neotec II Helmet - First Impressions

Post by Rednaxs60 » Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:47 pm



Decided that the helmets we were wearing needed to be replaced. I was using a BMW system 6 helmet made by Schubert for BMW and Sonya was wearing the HJC (inexpensive unit), both modular helmets. These helmets worked fine, but if you only have one, the liner can get a bit tired after a while. I also used the HJC for a day and realize you can go up in quality and be happy with a helmet, but using a less than comparable and quality of helmet is not on. I borrowed a friends LS2 modular to give that manufacturer a try, and as with the HJC, it was not anywhere close to my BMW helmet.

Went looking at the local dealers of which we don't have many here on the island. Tried the HJC RPHA 90, not bad but just did not feel right. Looked at and tried the Shoei Neotec II and the fit was good, so it got onto the list.

Went to the local BMW shop where I tried the new BMW system 7 carbon helmet - made by BMW not by Schubert. Nice and light, good looking, no exhaust vents for such a high end helmet. Tried one on and the fit was not right. The helmet liner and structure pinched the cheek bones. For a high end helmet I would have expected a better fit. the sales person mentioned that this was one of the main complaints about this helmet. Tried on the Schubert C3 and C4 Pro as well. Again no exhaust vents and found the liner to sit back on the cheek bones instead of encompassing the face.

Looked on line for reviews, found some and the Shoei had very good reviews.

With this information decided on the Shoei Neotec II. The local dealer had a one day sale, got 10% off. Lesser quality helmets were discounted more. but had the Shoei on my list for Sonya and I. It is not the lightest modular, but the fit and balance is very good. Had Sonya try my friends LS2 and her first comment was it was heavy, but did not tell her until after we bought the Shoei that it was probably heavier coming in at or close to 4 lbs, but she mentioned that the fit and weight was fine at the fitting. Forgot to mention the price of the Shoei to her at the onset. She was surprised at the price but fit, finish, how the various mechanisms work and the balance of the helmet just can't be beat. We got the Shoei in the white colour.

Sun shade operation is smooth and the sun shade does not rattle when the face shield is in the up position, unlike the LS2 that I tried. My BMW helmet sun shade did not rattle either.

The face shield is a two position for locking. The face shield can be closed to the first position and this leaves a small air gap at the bottom and lets air in. Pull the shield down completely and it snaps/locks into place. Nice feature when you don't have the pin lock shield in. The helmet comes with a pin lock shield. When the face shield is locked into place, the opening tab is on the left side, only has one, and the face shield opens easily and once started you can use two fingers to put the face shield in the full open position.

I found the vents to work well and smoothly and the weight is quite neutral. the chin strap is easy to work as well once you get the hang of it. The chin strap does not dig into my chin when together.

The Pinlock shield that comes with the Shoei Neotec II is the Pinlock EVO - non sun reactive. According to the Pinlock web site, you have to order the Pinlock product(s) for the Shoei Neotec II from Shoei.

Looking forward to getting the SENA unit for this helmet. There are channels in the interior structure to accommodate this unit.

When I was talking to the salesperson at the local dealer, she mentioned that Shoei is very meticulous with its quality control in that if a helmet does meet the requirement/specification it is discarded to trash. Here is a link to there manufacturing process: https://www.shoei-helmets.com/technolog ... lity.html/

Here is link to a review of the Shoei Neotec II and others. Lots of flash, but I found it quite good.



Went for a ride yesterday for some 150 Km and noticed a difference right away. The Shoei was quieter than my BMW helmet as there is more liner in play and the BMW helmet is almost 5 years old. The balance of the helmet at speed was quite good. I look over the windshield so there is air flowing around the helmet. Sonya found the helmet to be quite comfortable as well. We also found the helmets to not be tiring considering the weight.

I/we have been using the SENA SMH10R for the past 4 years. Got a fantastic deal on these units 4 years ago, but we decided to go with the integrated SENA SLR units. Have sold the others to her brother. Not to sound too vain, but it looks good with the integrated unit(s).

Overall quite impressed and happy with the quality, fit and finish. Realize from having the BMW helmet (made by Schubert) and wearing a high end helmet, it is not easy to go to a lesser quality helmet; however, I will caveat this with a person needs to get the best helmet that fits their budget.

Here is a pic:


Have been using the helmet now for the past three days and it is extremely comfortable, quiet and working well.

Just thought I'd give some first impressions. Cheers


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Re: Shoei Neotec II Helmet - First Impressions

Post by AZgl1800 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:30 am

I have been using the Shoei Neotec now for 2 years, and it is the most comfortable helmet I have ever worn.

I also have a HJC modular that is now almost 20 years old, it survived the Mr. Penski semi-truck merge into the center median back in 2008.

as for the liners wearing out, you can vastly improve the liner lifespan by wearing one of the moisture absorbing head socks... they have a terrific advantage in that they cover the ears and keep the ears from being folded over as you pull the helmet on. My HJC has the original liner in it, the headsocks make all the difference.
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Re: Shoei Neotec II Helmet - First Impressions

Post by C-dub » Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:51 pm

If Rednaxs60 doesn't mind I'll also post my first impressions over the next couple of weeks since I just got my Neotec-2 today and have ridden a grand total of 8 miles so far.

I have a trip coming up next week and should get about 800-900 miles in 4 days and can give further impressions at that time.

In my eight miles the helmet feels good overall and quieter than my HJC IS Max-2 modular helmet. The HJC is silver and I went with anthracite for the Neo-2 as it matches well with my 2016 blackish Wing. The cheek area is expectedly snug and I'm aware of the break in period. The dome area feels good. One major thing I noticed when first putting it on was that my ears were immediately in the correct position inside and did not require any additional re-positioning to get them there.

It was about 92 degrees on my way home and I felt this odd cool sensation on the top of my head.


So, my very first impression is that it is good and I'm going to like it. We'll see more after next week's trip. I saved up for this a little at a time for several month and paid cash so it wouldn't give my wife a heart attack seeing that $700+tax hit all at once. I hope she doesn't get too mad when she realizes I have it.
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Re: Shoei Neotec II Helmet - First Impressions

Post by Rednaxs60 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:39 am

C-dub: no worries on the report. I too noticed good air flow inside the helmet. You do have a problem though, this is a very high end helmet and as such the fit and finish will spoil you for any lesser helmet. My BMW helmet made by Schubert did the same. Hard to go to a less expensive helmet, just not the same.
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Re: Shoei Neotec II Helmet - First Impressions

Post by C-dub » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:35 am

Thanks. I debated starting my own thread, but hoped you would be okay with this since the title also fits my post and yours was one of the last I read that pushed me over the edge.

I thought my impressions compared with yours in the same place might be helpful to others.

I’ve also been mulling over headsets and thought I wanted to stay wired and just plug into the Wing’s system. Getting the Neo-2, I’ve committed myself to the Sena SRL. Either that or stay with nothing, which is a slight possibility.

Regarding getting spoiled to high end stuff: too late! When I bought my first 1100cc bike at 18y back in ‘83 the dealer warned me that I wouldn’t like anything smaller than 1100cc ever again. He was right. Plus, my wife convinced me on the Wing last year. They’re pretty high end when it comes to motorcycles.
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Re: Shoei Neotec II Helmet - First Impressions

Post by Rednaxs60 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:50 am

Getting the SENA SRL for our helmets. Have read good and not so good reviews of these. Will be doing a review of these as well.
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Re: Shoei Neotec II Helmet - First Impressions

Post by C-dub » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:32 am

Rednaxs60 wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:50 am
Getting the SENA SRL for our helmets. Have read good and not so good reviews of these. Will be doing a review of these as well.
What is your intended use?

>90% of my riding is solo, but I expect this to decrease as the wife and I do more exploring over the next several years.

At this time my use will be to listen to music and or the radio. I like using the radio from the bike, but if I understand correctly would need the freewire thingy to do that. Do you plan on connecting to your bike’s system somehow?

I’m also curious about the various ways to connect to the SRL system because I also wear hearing aides that are Bluetooth. I wonder if they will present issues with which device is connected to what between the hearing aides, my phone, and the SRL system let alone if my wife also has a BT headset in her helmet.

It kinda makes my head spin a little just considering the possibilities.
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Re: Shoei Neotec II Helmet - First Impressions

Post by Rednaxs60 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:00 pm

The Sena SRL has a built in radio receiver so you don't need to hook into the bike system. Ride two up quite often, keeps Sonya involved in the ride. Connected my cell phone with the older SMH10R. When I rode across Canada from Ontario to BC, Sonya would call and be my pseudo navigator and she was still involved in my ride/. Having a phone conversation when riding alone and doing distances breaks up the monotony and was quite enjoyable.

If a Bluetooth device is not paired with the communicator, should not be an issue, not completely certain, but makes sense.

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Re: Shoei Neotec II Helmet - First Impressions

Post by DonP. » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:01 pm

Really like the helmet but I already have a great pair of Sena20s headsets... They wont fit on the new Neotec2 and I need to get 2 helmets since the wife rides with me a lot now. So another what $500 to $600 for the SRL's ??? We are then close to $2000!!! No thanks! Shoei should have left the comm decisions to us and given us a helmet with smooth sides to attach our favorite bluetooth headsets. Missed a lot of potential customers this way...

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Re: Shoei Neotec II Helmet - First Impressions

Post by Rednaxs60 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:12 pm

We decided to upgrade to the SRL headsets and sell the SMH10R units to her brother and sister-in-law. They are enjoying them. I sold the headsets for what I paid for them so the damage of the new SRL units was not as bad.

The helmet I replaced was the BMW system 6, made by Schubert. I tried other less expensive helmets, but once you use a high quality helmet with good fit and finish, and workings, hard to go to a lesser quality helmet. Paid about $1200.00 CDN for each helmet including cost of communicator. Amortized over 5 years not too bad. Initial outlay is an ouch, but over the long term well worth it. Since I ride all year round, it's even a better amortization.

I find this helmet to be very quiet, well balanced even though it is supposed to be a heavy helmet. Not as deep in the front as the Schubert made BMW helmet, but once on and closed, it's a treat to have.

If you don't want the integrated SRL SENA unit, I'd recommend the SENA SMH10R. Uses Velcro to attach to the helmet, and is low profile. These units work well.

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