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Re: SoCalMotoGear Pathfinder LED Headlights - 2nd Generation

Post by hebert3007 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:14 pm



What is the proper headlight adjustment In your post you say proper adjustment what is the proper headlight adjustment ??? please define.



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Re: SoCalMotoGear Pathfinder LED Headlights - 2nd Generation

Post by WingAdmin » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:07 am

hebert3007 wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:14 pm
What is the proper headlight adjustment In your post you say proper adjustment what is the proper headlight adjustment ??? please define.
The official method involves a special calibrated chart on a wall. But you can get fairly close yourself, at least in terms of vertical alignment.

Find a LEVEL piece of ground with a wall at the end of it. Measure back from the wall 25 feet, and place the motorcycle there, with the headlight facing the wall. With the bike level (sitting on its wheels), measure from the ground to the middle of the headlight.

Then go to the wall and measure up the same distance. Mark a chalk line (or piece of paper, etc.) at that distance, and a second line two inches lower.

When the motorcycle's low beam is on, the top cutoff should be right on the lower line. That is to say, no light should be above the lower line.

If your bike has a separate adjustment for high beams, then switch them on and adjust them so that the center of the high beams lays along the upper line.

That will get you very close. You may have to make adjustments to account for load, as the bike rides slightly differently with passengers, luggage, etc, which will adjust the headlight angle (and that's the reason for the headlight adjustment knob in the first place).

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Re: SoCalMotoGear Pathfinder LED Headlights - 2nd Generation

Post by Bentrider » Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:02 pm

WingAdmin wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:57 pm
khspe2 wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:15 pm
Will these LED bulbs work with a headlight modulator?
Yes! But it has to be a headlight modulator designed specifically for LED headlights. Regular headlight modulators will end up FLASHING LEDs instead of modulating them, which is illegal.

Kisan makes the LED headlight modulator that is in my bike.
WingAdmin wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:57 pm
khspe2 wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:15 pm
Will these LED bulbs work with a headlight modulator?
Yes! But it has to be a headlight modulator designed specifically for LED headlights. Regular headlight modulators will end up FLASHING LEDs instead of modulating them, which is illegal.

Kisan makes the LED headlight modulator that is in my bike.
Which specific Kisan LED modulator works on a GL1500? The fitment chart says "This does not fit your vehicle" for all the models. My bike is a 1989 GL1500.

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Re: SoCalMotoGear Pathfinder LED Headlights - 2nd Generation

Post by hebert3007 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:16 am

WingAdmin wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:07 am
hebert3007 wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:14 pm
What is the proper headlight adjustment In your post you say proper adjustment what is the proper headlight adjustment ??? please define.
The official method involves a special calibrated chart on a wall. But you can get fairly close yourself, at least in terms of vertical alignment.

Find a LEVEL piece of ground with a wall at the end of it. Measure back from the wall 25 feet, and place the motorcycle there, with the headlight facing the wall. With the bike level (sitting on its wheels), measure from the ground to the middle of the headlight.

Then go to the wall and measure up the same distance. Mark a chalk line (or piece of paper, etc.) at that distance, and a second line two inches lower.

When the motorcycle's low beam is on, the top cutoff should be right on the lower line. That is to say, no light should be above the lower line.

If your bike has a separate adjustment for high beams, then switch them on and adjust them so that the center of the high beams lays along the upper line.

That will get you very close. You may have to make adjustments to account for load, as the bike rides slightly differently with passengers, luggage, etc, which will adjust the headlight angle (and that's the reason for the headlight adjustment knob in the first place).
Thanks now that makes sense. I will put a mark on my adjustment knob. Thanks, Bernie

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Re: SoCalMotoGear Pathfinder LED Headlights - 2nd Generation

Post by WingAdmin » Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:14 pm

Bentrider wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:02 pm
WingAdmin wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:57 pm
khspe2 wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:15 pm
Will these LED bulbs work with a headlight modulator?
Yes! But it has to be a headlight modulator designed specifically for LED headlights. Regular headlight modulators will end up FLASHING LEDs instead of modulating them, which is illegal.

Kisan makes the LED headlight modulator that is in my bike.
WingAdmin wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:57 pm
khspe2 wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:15 pm
Will these LED bulbs work with a headlight modulator?
Yes! But it has to be a headlight modulator designed specifically for LED headlights. Regular headlight modulators will end up FLASHING LEDs instead of modulating them, which is illegal.

Kisan makes the LED headlight modulator that is in my bike.
Which specific Kisan LED modulator works on a GL1500? The fitment chart says "This does not fit your vehicle" for all the models. My bike is a 1989 GL1500.
I used the 150GW-LED modulator:

https://cyclemax.com/inc/sdetail/gl1500 ... ator/19141

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Re: SoCalMotoGear Pathfinder LED Headlights - 2nd Generation

Post by chchrider » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:12 pm

WingAdmin wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:07 am

The official method involves a special calibrated chart on a wall. But you can get fairly close yourself, at least in terms of vertical alignment.

Find a LEVEL piece of ground with a wall at the end of it. Measure back from the wall 25 feet, and place the motorcycle there, with the headlight facing the wall. With the bike level (sitting on its wheels), measure from the ground to the middle of the headlight.

Then go to the wall and measure up the same distance. Mark a chalk line (or piece of paper, etc.) at that distance, and a second line two inches lower.

When the motorcycle's low beam is on, the top cutoff should be right on the lower line. That is to say, no light should be above the lower line.

If your bike has a separate adjustment for high beams, then switch them on and adjust them so that the center of the high beams lays along the upper line.

That will get you very close. You may have to make adjustments to account for load, as the bike rides slightly differently with passengers, luggage, etc, which will adjust the headlight angle (and that's the reason for the headlight adjustment knob in the first place).
I have lowered my bike with the product from Lower Wing in USA (front of bike was lowered as well to compensate for back being lowered) and have installed the Pathfinder L.E.D to both Low and High beam. The problem I have now is that unadjusted they were shining in the eyes of oncoming traffic and High Beam were ineffectual. I used the adjuster nut under the fairing to wind the Low beam down and now the High Beam are still ineffectual (High Beam is virtually shining at the ground in front of the bike). It has been suggested that I reinstall the original High Beam bulb. As far as I am aware there is no separate adjustment for High Beam on a 2012 Goldwing. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: SoCalMotoGear Pathfinder LED Headlights - 2nd Generation

Post by Stew » Sun Dec 16, 2018 12:39 pm

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I am so very tired of being blinded by all manor of vehicles using new lights. It is like a lighthouse beam in my face, on low beam. On high beam, I usually get burnt! Most of the LED lights are terrible.
Yeah some of new vehicles aren't that great for oncoming drivers, even worse though is all the older cars with crappy retrofit LED or HID bulbs, some are actually just fine but most are pretty blinding. I do give motorcycles a pass on this subject though, not only because I ride but they need every advantage when it comes to seeing and being seen. I drive for a living and this time of year is especially bad since it gets dark so early and I mostly drive evening shifts.
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Re: SoCalMotoGear Pathfinder LED Headlights - 2nd Generation

Post by echinus1988 » Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:58 pm

I bought my Pathfinder LED Headlights in January. Finally got around to putting them on my 2006 GL1800.

The instructions tell you how to put on the low beams but recommends that you use a qualified Honda mechanic to put in the hi beams. A 3-4 hour job.

Well, being that I don't like paying that much (Read: CHEAP), I decided to do it myself. I looked up information and found that they are mounted behind our two little boxes on the right and left side. Not the easiest thing to do but I removed the boxes, plus the foot warmer cable and control on the left side. I use touch to get them lined up, get them in the holes, latched down and put back together. It worked and I had the low and hi beams finished within 2.5 hours without rushing or pushing.

They look fantastic but I am waiting to take them out when it's really dark. At 5:30 AM there is a hint of sunlight so it's hard to tell how effective they are. They look good and the difference, WOW! I know it's probably weird but I took a picture of the one remaining Halogen hi beam with the 3 other lights switched over to LED. A big difference.
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Re: SoCalMotoGear Pathfinder LED Headlights - 2nd Generation

Post by fhr57 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:28 pm

Just recieved my Pathfinder headlights. Have a 88 Goldwing. The lights don't fit with the tabs. Does that mean the housing was changed at some point and I need to cut the tabs off and get the shims?

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Re: SoCalMotoGear Pathfinder LED Headlights - 2nd Generation

Post by Mh434 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:06 pm

Sounds like it - is the glass clear, or patterned? If it’s clear, it’s a later style housing which, I understand, would require trimming & shims. The original housings, with patterned glass, fit unmodified bulb bases.

At least, I believe that’s correct.

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Post by fhr57 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:03 pm

Yes it is. I had to order the shims.
Thanks

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Re: SoCalMotoGear Pathfinder LED Headlights - 2nd Generation

Post by fhr57 » Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:04 am

Headlight housing also has a 3 sided diffuser inside. Is this standard or an add on to add color to the headlights. I don't see it in wingadmins pics.

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Re: SoCalMotoGear Pathfinder LED Headlights - 2nd Generation

Post by WingAdmin » Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:42 am

I think you're talking about these?

Shield inside headlight
Shield inside headlight

If so, they are part of the headlight. They are there to prevent the filaments of the bulb from being viewed directly, ensuring that all of the light is focused by the internal reflector down the road. Without them in place, the bulbs are blinding to oncoming drivers.

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Post by fhr57 » Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:22 am

No, not that. The part you're showing is screwed in. The piece I'm talking about lays in the opening under the headlight. It's a ring with 3 pieces of glass attached in a circle around the bulb. I'll take a pic tonight.

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Re: SoCalMotoGear Pathfinder LED Headlights - 2nd Generation

Post by WingAdmin » Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:11 am

Underneath the headlight is the intake for the vent outlets located on the dash:





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There are some aftermarket lights that can fit in there - I have this one on my GL1500:

LED Running Light
LED Running Light

I suspect you might have something aftermarket as well? A picture might help figure it out.

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Re: SoCalMotoGear Pathfinder LED Headlights - 2nd Generation

Post by fhr57 » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:25 am

No, this is actually in the headlight housing, installed before the bulb. Looks like a colored lights diffuser. I think it's what gives the headlight the colored rainbow look. Must be some aftermarket lighting effect. This is the first time I've had the headlight apart since I've owned it.

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Re: SoCalMotoGear Pathfinder LED Headlights - 2nd Generation

Post by fhr57 » Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:37 pm





Ok, here's 2 pics. One in the housing and 2 out. Looks like 3 little mirrors around the bulb for rainbow/ color effect. I guess I'll have to wait and see how they make the new led look.

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Post by MikeB » Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:48 pm

That was an aftermarket item specifically manufactured to give the rainbow light effect. It is not something that Honda installed. It was owner installed.
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Re: SoCalMotoGear Pathfinder LED Headlights - 2nd Generation

Post by fhr57 » Wed May 01, 2019 2:20 pm

While I'm working on these headlights I'm switching everything else to led. Will the flasher control sold at Cyclemax work? Or is it better to use the resistors?

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Post by MikeB » Wed May 01, 2019 2:56 pm

I do not know if the flasher from Cyclemax will work but if it does, it would be your best all around alternative to using the resistors to take the load that the LED's do not provide.

Using resistors defeats the purpose of using LED bulbs if you are looking for a decreased load on the electrical system.
If your aim is to decrease the frequency that you replace the lamps, then using the resistors with LED lamps is a fair alternative to replacing the bulbs every few years. The standard bulbs last a very long time.
I hadn't paid much attention to the turn signals and their longevity until just now.
My first GL1500 never had to have the turn signal bulbs replaced and I owned it for 9 years and it had 161,000 miles on it when I sold it.
My current GL1500 has 178,000 miles on it and I have not had to replace those turn signal lamps either.
On the flip side, I've had to replace the bulbs in the radio at least once in each of the GL1500's. Next time it will be with LED's.
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Re: SoCalMotoGear Pathfinder LED Headlights - 2nd Generation

Post by Mh434 » Wed May 01, 2019 7:20 pm

Another solution is to replace just most of the signal bulbs with LED’s. As long as you leave, say, one on each sidea as regular bulbs (I have quite a few signal bulbs, so I can still replace several with LED’s), there will be enough resistance in the circuit to operate the standard flasher unit. One standard bulb on each side is all that’s required without having to get a special flasher unit.

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Re: SoCalMotoGear Pathfinder LED Headlights - 2nd Generation

Post by fhr57 » Fri May 03, 2019 9:20 am

Do the Socal headlights get installed as is, or do they have to be turned. They are at 6.5 out of the box.

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Post by WingAdmin » Fri May 03, 2019 12:30 pm

fhr57 wrote:
Fri May 03, 2019 9:20 am
Do the Socal headlights get installed as is, or do they have to be turned. They are at 6.5 out of the box.
That's the correct angle for installation, at least if you're planning to ride on the right side of the road.

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Re: SoCalMotoGear Pathfinder LED Headlights - 2nd Generation

Post by BamBam424 » Sun May 05, 2019 9:41 am

Once you get your first old one out and the new one in the 2nd is a lot easier since it is hard to see vs feel. What I found with the 2nd to be easier is
1. Have bike on centerstand so I could turn the handlebars easy side to side.
2. Remove the clip spring and drop the bulb all in tack with wiring down to the front tire vs pulling through the handlebars
3. have the new LED all in tack with the rubber boot and all wiring put together
4. Hold the old bulb wiring up where it connects to the stock wire harness and do not let go, so as soon as you can use one hand to finger that connection loose, to be able to plug the new harness into it. I did not do this on the first one and to plug these two in blindness was a huge pain. Grrrr frustrating.
5. push the whole bulb/boot/sync assembly into the bulb socket and finger the wire into the bulb up with one finger while pushing the spring under the wire and into place.
6. Push the rubber boot on and screw in the sync.
I found putting it all together first was easier than trying to do all the connections blindly behind the faring is the point.
1st bulb was 20 min and so frustrating, 2nd was 5 minutes and simple



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