Brand new stator crapped out


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Tipsy McStaggers
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Brand new stator crapped out

Post by Tipsy McStaggers » Sat Oct 06, 2018 5:49 pm



Replaced my bad stator with a Rick's stator along with a new reg/rec. Checked to make sure it wasn't grounding out after install and it wasn't. After rebuilding the carbs and starting to make progress getting it balanced I checked the voltage and it was charging at just over 16v. Thought it might be the new reg/rec so I swapped them back. Now it's not charging at all with either reg/rec. 50 volts AC is what I'm getting between stator leads, should be getting 75v. I'm seriously thinking of cutting my losses with this piece of crap and going back to a twin or an in line. This is the most frustrating bike I've ever messed with.



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Re: Brand new stator crapped out

Post by DaveO430 » Sat Oct 06, 2018 6:39 pm

50 VAC is fine, your stator is good. You have a wiring problem.

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Re: Brand new stator crapped out

Post by Tipsy McStaggers » Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:16 pm

So I should check the stator leads at the reg/rec 1st and make sure I'm getting 50vac? Then go from there eh. Thought it was supposed to be at least 75vac @ 3000rpm. That's what I saw on a YouTube test.

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Re: Brand new stator crapped out

Post by DenverWinger » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:22 am

40-70 volts is fine, this is open circuit voltage, with the bike's electrical system attached this will be loaded down to around 15 vac but putting out some good current...

I'd be checking any connectors (rectifier, regulator) for burnt connector pins, and also check all the GROUND connections for the reg/rec.... If charging at too high a voltage sounds like the "sense" lead to the regulator is not getting a good read on the battery voltage (bad connection somewhere).
They say 98% of all Hardleys ever made are still on the road..... The other 2% made it home. :lol:
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Re: Brand new stator crapped out

Post by Tipsy McStaggers » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:35 pm

Should the black wire be grounded with all the switches open? That was the only wire besides the green wires that grounded. Had continuity between all the yellow wires and the red with the positive battery terminal.

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Re: Brand new stator crapped out

Post by DaveO430 » Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:22 pm

Tipsy McStaggers wrote:
Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:35 pm
Should the black wire be grounded with all the switches open? That was the only wire besides the green wires that grounded. Had continuity between all the yellow wires and the red with the positive battery terminal.
The black wire is going to show continuity to ground since it ties in with the lights and ignition system. It should show battery volts when the key is on.

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Re: Brand new stator crapped out

Post by Tipsy McStaggers » Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:06 pm

If charging at too high a voltage sounds like the "sense" lead to the regulator is not getting a good read on the battery voltage (bad connection somewhere).

which wire is the "sense lead"? I looked at the schematic and could never find where the black wire went back to positive.

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Re: Brand new stator crapped out

Post by DaveO430 » Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:25 am

Check the connector on top of the starter relay, the red/white wire is where the charging comes from.

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Re: Brand new stator crapped out

Post by Tipsy McStaggers » Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:46 am

10-4. Also, does it matter if you mix up the yellow wires at the stator connection, or do they all do the same thing?

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Re: Brand new stator crapped out

Post by DenverWinger » Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:20 am

All AC current, those wires are 'mix-n-match'


They say 98% of all Hardleys ever made are still on the road..... The other 2% made it home. :lol:
(I stole this from somebody on another GW site...) :roll:

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