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My Garage fire...

Post by T_birdman » Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:15 pm



About 2 weeks ago while I was at work, I got a call from my neighbor that my garage was on fire and that my 1999 GL1500 was burning as well! I rush home and find 8 fire trucks and a slew of first responders at my place.


I'm heartbroken, because I also lost my 1985 GL1200 that was also cooked! I'm a professional driver and always figured I wouldn't need comprehensive Insurance so both of these bikes are a total loss! Homeowners insurance does not cover vehicles in or around the property, for those of you out there that may not have known that (as I didn't either!), something to consider for your own piece of mind.

I spent a lot of man-hours converting Incandescent lamps front to back to LED, all that work is gone. Adding chrome accents, keeping everything clean and maintained, it feels like I lost a family member!

I can't get to the 1200, it's in the burn inventory area that has to be gone over by adjusters, but when things free up, I'll be posting what is salvageable from both bikes and looking for anyone that might be interested in salvaging what is left. I'll post more down the road.



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Re: My Garage fire...

Post by WingAdmin » Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:32 pm

So sorry to hear this, what a terrible loss.

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Re: My Garage fire...

Post by Solina Dave » Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:59 pm

T_birdman wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:15 pm

I'm heartbroken, it feels like I lost a family member!
That's is sad news to hear my friend. I hope everything works out for you. And when things quiet down a bit, maybe you can think about getting back into it. I think we can all relate, at least a little bit, to how you are feeling.

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Re: My Garage fire...

Post by C-dub » Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:46 pm

That is horrible and absolutely devastating. I'm so sorry. :cry:

Do you have any ideas yet or know how it started?
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Re: My Garage fire...

Post by T_birdman » Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:58 pm

WingAdmin wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:32 pm
So sorry to hear this, what a terrible loss.
Thanks Bro, at first I was just happy that no one was hurt and my house was still there, but as the days have slowly gone by I'm realizing just how much of my life was in that garage. I wouldn't wish this on anyone! I definitely feel for the folks involved in the Wolsey fire going on now, bad thing fire is!

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Re: My Garage fire...

Post by minimac » Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:59 pm

That's a bummer and I feel for you. I know it doesn't help much, but at least it was only stuff, and stuff can be replaced. Hopefully your insurance will help to recoup most of your losses.

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Re: My Garage fire...

Post by T_birdman » Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:05 pm

Solina Dave wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:59 pm
T_birdman wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:15 pm

I'm heartbroken, it feels like I lost a family member!
That's is sad news to hear my friend. I hope everything works out for you. And when things quiet down a bit, maybe you can think about getting back into it. I think we can all relate, at least a little bit, to how you are feeling.

Dave
Thank you very much Dave! Things won't quiet down here until the Insurance is finished replacing my world! But regardless of the bad stuff, there was no possible way I could go without 2 wheels under me! I found a beauty of a 93 about an hour from here, 2nd owner, great guy that just bought a new 1800, and was looking for someone to give this bike a good home! So this 93 is my 5th Goldwing!



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Re: My Garage fire...

Post by T_birdman » Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:09 pm

minimac wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:59 pm
That's a bummer and I feel for you. I know it doesn't help much, but at least it was only stuff, and stuff can be replaced. Hopefully your insurance will help to recoup most of your losses.
I appreciate that minimac, I know it's just stuff but the amount of stuff in there even blows my mind! I'll definitely keep the Insurance company from cheating!

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Re: My Garage fire...

Post by T_birdman » Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:14 pm

C-dub wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:46 pm
That is horrible and absolutely devastating. I'm so sorry. :cry:

Do you have any ideas yet or know how it started?
Thank you C-dub, the arson investigators came out the next day and couldn't put their finger on it. I was miles away at work all day, my wife was out running errands, and my son was at work for hours too, so no one was home when it started! Thank goodness I have nosey neighbors!

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Re: My Garage fire...

Post by WINGER3 » Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:08 am

So sorry to hear of your loss, if your stuff was anything like my 50 years of stuff I would still be crying because that is your history and that can not be replaced. I wish you the very best and that you didn't lose your home. Bob :mrgreen: :(
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Re: My Garage fire...

Post by T_birdman » Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:39 am

WINGER3 wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:08 am
So sorry to hear of your loss, if your stuff was anything like my 50 years of stuff I would still be crying because that is your history and that can not be replaced. I wish you the very best and that you didn't lose your home. Bob :mrgreen: :(
Thanks WINGER3, That's about how many years of stuff is gone for me, some things I'll never be able to replace and money can't either. Feels like my first divorce again! :?

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Re: My Garage fire...

Post by AZgl1800 » Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:10 am

so sorry to hear about your loss, my particular home insurance policy gives me $30,000 for outside inventory in, or around my shop building.

for my motorcycles though, I have always carried "Replacement Value" on my Goldwings....
and in 2008 that proved to be a very good thing, as I got a check for $0.01 less than the full value that we agreed it was worth before the accident.
yes, they wrote out a check for $9,999.99 and the agent explained that company policy does not allow for them to give the "full amount".... lucky for me, he was a bike rider and fought for me.


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Re: My Garage fire...

Post by Big Blue UK » Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:25 pm

So sorry to hear that birdman. easy to think it cannot happen to you, or you never think about it. Until it happened to someone I used to work with many years ago. Went to have a look and thought 'bloody hell'. Caused by a washing machine in his garage, that was turned on before his wife went to work, BBQ'd his bike and all his stuff. He could not recall to inventory a lot of stuff. Of course SWMBO has washing machine, tumble dryer, and freezer in the garage. Next day or so........... Both smoke and flame detectors in my garage that are mains powered, and linked to the house alarm, so if any detector goes off it triggers the house alarm, so that it can be heard, the door from the kitchen to the garage was replaced with a fire door. Washer and drier never to be left in use when no one at home. Every year I re record a video of everything in the garage, and test the fire and house alarm twice a year. Have agreed value of vehicles in there, that I keep insured all the time, Big Blue has to be alarmed, and chained to the floor, even though there is a car in front of it.



That is a great looking 1500 you got hold of.
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Re: My Garage fire...

Post by T_birdman » Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:29 pm

AZgl1800 wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:10 am
so sorry to hear about your loss, my particular home insurance policy gives me $30,000 for outside inventory in, or around my shop building.

for my motorcycles though, I have always carried "Replacement Value" on my Goldwings....
and in 2008 that proved to be a very good thing, as I got a check for $0.01 less than the full value that we agreed it was worth before the accident.
yes, they wrote out a check for $9,999.99 and the agent explained that company policy does not allow for them to give the "full amount".... lucky for me, he was a bike rider and fought for me.

Bike Officers Truck 800.JPG
Thanks AZgl1800, I've just been visited by the last (I hope!) Arson Investigator and everything looks good to start the big job of INVENTORY!!!! My policy has significant coverage for contents with limited exemptions that won't affect what was inside, I didn't have Jewelry or furs, I had tools and hobbies and a lifetime of knowing what I need about me. With the exception of one cabinet with firearms, I should have no trouble, with the exception of identifying what was and is now ashes will be tough! I will have to rethink what coverage to keep for future needs, and up some values as well!

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Re: My Garage fire...

Post by T_birdman » Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:41 pm

Big Blue UK wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:25 pm
So sorry to hear that birdman. easy to think it cannot happen to you, or you never think about it. Until it happened to someone I used to work with many years ago. Went to have a look and thought 'bloody hell'. Caused by a washing machine in his garage, that was turned on before his wife went to work, BBQ'd his bike and all his stuff. He could not recall to inventory a lot of stuff. Of course SWMBO has washing machine, tumble dryer, and freezer in the garage. Next day or so........... Both smoke and flame detectors in my garage that are mains powered, and linked to the house alarm, so if any detector goes off it triggers the house alarm, so that it can be heard, the door from the kitchen to the garage was replaced with a fire door. Washer and drier never to be left in use when no one at home. Every year I re record a video of everything in the garage, and test the fire and house alarm twice a year. Have agreed value of vehicles in there, that I keep insured all the time, Big Blue has to be alarmed, and chained to the floor, even though there is a car in front of it.



That is a great looking 1500 you got hold of.
Thank you very much Big Blue, I agree 100%, but I have to call you on one thing......SWMBO is not in my vocabulary, lol! I call mine "My Leetle' Thermometer" because when she gets out of line I toss her in the pool, and based on how loud she screams I know if I have to wait another month or so for the pool water to warm up enough to swim in yet!

I must say though, I like the idea of recording valuables, of course, if I had done that the video would have been saved to my hard drive, on my computer, which was in my garage, and was melted into a blob on the floor, with all it's content crispy as well! Oh well! :roll:

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Re: My Garage fire...

Post by redial » Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:34 am

If insurance for all your goodies is in mind, think buy price, rather than value. the insurance company can beat you down, but they will not raise it!
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Re: My Garage fire...

Post by T_birdman » Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:36 am

redial wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:34 am
If insurance for all your goodies is in mind, think buy price, rather than value. the insurance company can beat you down, but they will not raise it!
Thanks redial, I'm aware of how the Insurance racket works, which is why I hired a private adjuster to help with a "COMPLETE" inventory of which I will personally supervise to make sure every bean is counted to my satisfaction! I've lost too much to let someone tell me what my world is worth!

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Re: My Garage fire...

Post by DenverWinger » Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:39 am

+1 on the Private Adjuster, my property suffered $64K damage in a May 2017 hailstorm. Baseball sized hail. Took over a year to settle. Wound up with my private adjuster and theirs in binding arbitration. Referee ruled in our favor. Repairs are not yet complete.

Fortunately all the bikes were in the garage and safe, I drove the Jeep to work and Deb had her car at work, so they were both safe. My car was pretty smashed up though, older car (1985) and no comprehensive, so glass replacement came out of my pocket.

I feel for you Birdman, Our damage was exterior, roofs, windows, garage door, siding, patio furniture, yard statues etc., smashed all the early posies..... all our possessions remained safe.

That's a beautiful looking '93 you have there, it's the Best Year and the Fastest Color, too!

As to Computer data, I have a couple of 4TB hard drives (relatively cheap these days) that are kept in the detached garage containing data and system backups of the computers in the house. These backups are refreshed relatively often, and the garage computer stores backups in one of the computers in the house (all networked). In a fire unlikely to lose both, the garage is in the very rear of the property facing the alley.
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Re: My Garage fire...

Post by WingAdmin » Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:00 am

DenverWinger wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:39 am
As to Computer data, I have a couple of 4TB hard drives (relatively cheap these days) that are kept in the detached garage containing data and system backups of the computers in the house. These backups are refreshed relatively often, and the garage computer stores backups in one of the computers in the house (all networked). In a fire unlikely to lose both, the garage is in the very rear of the property facing the alley.
I was thinking the same thing - in this age of massive hard drives and cheap high speed Internet, there is zero reason for lost data anymore.

I have a computer sitting in my basement that is my "backup" computer. Just a cheap, old, used PC (you could use a used $150 laptop off eBay) with a bunch of external hard drives hooked to it. Quick trick: external hard drives are often cheaper than buying the bare hard drives of the same capacity.

My backup computer copies everything from all of the other computers in the house (all networked) on a more or less continual basis.

That computer in turn backs up everything (encrypted) over the Internet to BackBlaze, which is a cloud backup service. Backblaze is $5 a month for unlimited storage. I take full advantage of this, storing many terabytes of data on their servers for $5/month. Should the absolute worst happen, even if my house is completely leveled and everything in it destroyed, I still have a copy of everything on BackBlaze that I can restore.

I have set up family members with BackBlaze as well, and it's come in handy quite a few times.

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Re: My Garage fire...

Post by AZgl1800 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:37 am

WingAdmin wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:00 am


That computer in turn backs up everything (encrypted) over the Internet to BackBlaze, which is a cloud backup service. Backblaze is $5 a month for unlimited storage. I take full advantage of this, storing many terabytes of data on their servers for $5/month. Should the absolute worst happen, even if my house is completely leveled and everything in it destroyed, I still have a copy of everything on BackBlaze that I can restore.

I have set up family members with BackBlaze as well, and it's come in handy quite a few times.
this is cost prohibitive for us rural folks with limited speeds and sometimes with data caps...
my upload speed is capped at 1.0Mbps which is totally useless for backing up data.

a single small sized video takes almost 3 hours uploading to YouTube.
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Re: My Garage fire...

Post by T_birdman » Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:45 pm

DenverWinger wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:39 am

I feel for you Birdman, Our damage was exterior, roofs, windows, garage door, siding, patio furniture, yard statues etc., smashed all the early posies..... all our possessions remained safe.

That's a beautiful looking '93 you have there, it's the Best Year and the Fastest Color, too!
Hey DenverWinger, I'm glad you didn't lose personal belongings, it sucks, but sorry for your ongoing situation too! I must say you sure have a purty bike there Lad! (Lol!) ;)

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Re: My Garage fire...

Post by T_birdman » Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:46 pm

WingAdmin wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:00 am
DenverWinger wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:39 am
As to Computer data, I have a couple of 4TB hard drives (relatively cheap these days) that are kept in the detached garage containing data and system backups of the computers in the house. These backups are refreshed relatively often, and the garage computer stores backups in one of the computers in the house (all networked). In a fire unlikely to lose both, the garage is in the very rear of the property facing the alley.
I was thinking the same thing - in this age of massive hard drives and cheap high speed Internet, there is zero reason for lost data anymore.

I have a computer sitting in my basement that is my "backup" computer. Just a cheap, old, used PC (you could use a used $150 laptop off eBay) with a bunch of external hard drives hooked to it. Quick trick: external hard drives are often cheaper than buying the bare hard drives of the same capacity.

My backup computer copies everything from all of the other computers in the house (all networked) on a more or less continual basis.

That computer in turn backs up everything (encrypted) over the Internet to BackBlaze, which is a cloud backup service. Backblaze is $5 a month for unlimited storage. I take full advantage of this, storing many terabytes of data on their servers for $5/month. Should the absolute worst happen, even if my house is completely leveled and everything in it destroyed, I still have a copy of everything on BackBlaze that I can restore.

I have set up family members with BackBlaze as well, and it's come in handy quite a few times.
All lessons learned! Things will be different down the road for sure!

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Re: My Garage fire...

Post by T_birdman » Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:26 pm



Just a bit of an update, the inventory is slow going due in part to the intermittent rain we've been getting not to mention the huge amount of stuff I had that was burned! This is a photo of the GL1200 after clearing out some of the debris. The front tire blew up and will make moving it a pain, but it's hard enough just seeing it this way!



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Re: My Garage fire...

Post by Alan_Hepburn » Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:13 pm

T_birdman wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:26 pm
The front tire blew up and will make moving it a pain, but it's hard enough just seeing it this way!
Harbor Freight sells vehicle dollies that you put under a wheel, for moving vehicles around. Might be a good investment for moving that poor bike...
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Re: My Garage fire...

Post by AZgl1800 » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:16 pm

Alan_Hepburn wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:13 pm
T_birdman wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:26 pm
The front tire blew up and will make moving it a pain, but it's hard enough just seeing it this way!
Harbor Freight sells vehicle dollies that you put under a wheel, for moving vehicles around. Might be a good investment for moving that poor bike...
HF somehow, seems to include one of those little dollies in my shopping cart every time I enter that store :( :(

We have a selection now of every size they offer. It is amazing how much easier it is to move around in a stuffed up space, when you can just put your knee against something and it glides away to give you room to walk through....

We drink only bottled water from the store...... and we bring home 3 and 4 cases every trip.
We choose a dolly the same size as the water bottle case, and then we just stack them up....
now we aren't tripping over those water bottles anymore... just slide them over....
same with the 40# bags of Dog Food, they are dumped into large plastic bins..... they just glide out of the way.....

has allowed us to store stuff tightly in the attached garage so we don't have to go out into the outside shop to get to something.


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