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boragebone
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starter installation troubles

Post by boragebone » Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:11 pm



Hey y'all
I wrote a hecka long thing about this but it disappeared into the ether. Here's a short version though.

I'm installing a new starter and it doesn't seem to want to slide past the o ring. I cleaned and lubed various surfaces and did a bunch of wiggling and removed the shifter for extra room and tried a both the sprockets that I have but that still seems to be as far as it wants to go. Any wisdom on this topic?



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Re: starter installation troubles

Post by DaveO430 » Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:19 pm

The o-ring is probably too big, I have heard of this before. Aftermarket starter I presume.

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Re: starter installation troubles

Post by virgilmobile » Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:55 pm

Isolate the problem.Remove the "O" Ring and try to fit the starter without it.
Is it difficult because of the o ring or fitting into the sprocket?

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Re: starter installation troubles

Post by boragebone » Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:49 pm

I figured it out y'all!

I had got this starter off ebay. I decided that I would try to slide in the old one to see if it would fit better. It was immediately obvious that it was in fact a looser fit. So I took it out and compared them.

At first glance they looked identical but upon closer inspection the part that slides into the engine block was in fact larger on the new starter. Presumably it must have been designed for another wing like a gl1200 or something.

So what I did was I unscrewed and switched the front part of the starter housing from the old one to the new one... Voila!

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Re: starter installation troubles

Post by virgilmobile » Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:45 am

I do suspect that the "front end" was ....how should I say this...cheap?Out of specs?
I doubt it was the wrong one,just not made to OEM standards.
Using the original gearhead is a great solution.
Good job.

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Re: starter installation troubles

Post by boragebone » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:38 am

I can't help but notice how very demuir you were about criticisizing that aftermarket starter... Diplomacy is in the air...

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Re: starter installation troubles

Post by virgilmobile » Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:28 pm

"Exact replacement"
A term that I take with a grain of salt.
Sometimes it is..
Sometimes it isn't.
Such is the case with the starter..It's was obviously not a OEM Honda starter.
I'm not knocking aftermarket parts..Lord knows I buy and use many of them..
BUT...just not when it comes to critical parts.
If I want it to preform like OEM,I use OEM.
It's the plug and play method..

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Re: starter installation troubles

Post by dnehasert » Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:35 pm

I've had 2 of the low cost Chinese starters a few years ago. They both failed within a year. Ended up buying a rebuilt Japanese starter and no problems. Also the one would not go in either as it was oversized. Removed the O ring and went in like it was supposed to.



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