starter solenoid problems


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Re: starter solenoid problems

Post by roadwanderer2 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:08 pm



roadwanderer2 wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:39 pm
Hi Ernest. I like the looks of that new stator. It looks so "simple". I see that new RR has only 5 wires coming out. 3 are for the stator and the other 2 are the + and - for the battery as you have shown in the photo. I also see 2 connectors to the left of the RR in the photo. Are they the old connectors that USED to be plugged into the old RR?. What did he do with them, just leave them there unconnected?

From what your describing, i would need to run NEW wires to the stator AND to the battery, am I correct?, and leave the rest of the wires disconnected but capped or taped off correct? I'm not so sure i can leave all those wires disconnected, I mean, they have to go somewhere don't they?.

Stuart.
I'm sorry, my bad, what i meant to say in my first sentence was RR and NOT stator. Silly me.

Stuart.



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Re: starter solenoid problems

Post by roadwanderer2 » Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:38 am

Good morning Ernest. I hope this message finds you well.

I have a question about this new style R/R. I like the fact that it is very "simple" and only 5 wires in total, but what do I do with all the rest of the wires that are connected to the old style R/R. Do I "reroute" them or simply cut and seal them up. Will my bike still run correctly with all the wires, other than the 3 stator and the + and - wires unconnected? I don't understand.

Stuart.

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Re: starter solenoid problems

Post by DaveO430 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:48 pm

roadwanderer2 wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:39 pm


From what your describing, i would need to run NEW wires to the stator AND to the battery, am I correct?, and leave the rest of the wires disconnected but capped or taped off correct? I'm not so sure i can leave all those wires disconnected, I mean, they have to go somewhere don't they?.

Stuart.
Of course those wires go somewhere but they will no longer be used so it won't hurt to leave them unconnected. You could go into the harness and take them out but why bother.

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Re: starter solenoid problems

Post by roadwanderer2 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:10 pm

Well, since they won't be used anymore, im gonna just cap 'em off and tape them up. I still can't see how everything will still work with all of the wires being capped off, but i'll take your words for it.

Stuart.

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Re: starter solenoid problems

Post by Rednaxs60 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:47 pm

The old OEM RR has two green wires - ground. Cap these. The two green wires are joined into one wire just after these wires disappear into the wiring harness.

The two red/white wires are joined into one wire just after disappearing into the wiring harness just like the green ground wires. The red/white wire is joined with the red wire from the stater solenoid in the wiring harness just below the gas fill. The red/white wire then goes directly to the starter solenoid to provide charging for the battery and power to the 30 amp CFI circuit connected to the battery terminal of the starter solenoid. You must cap these two wires as these are live at all times.

The three yellow stator wires are self explanatory.

The black/light green wire is the sense wire. If you use the newer 5 wire RR, the sense wire is the positive wire, much like a one wire alternator hookup.

Here's the wiring diagram:


This is how the RR wires are used. Doesn't affect the bike operation any other way. Hope this helps.

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Re: starter solenoid problems

Post by roadwanderer2 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:56 pm

Hey Ernest. I'm going to print this out so i can have it right next to me while im installing the new R/R and while im taping up the old wires coming off of the R/R. Don't want to have a wire shorting out anything. Thanks for this diagram.

Stuart.

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Re: starter solenoid problems

Post by roadwanderer2 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 2:32 pm

Hey peeps and peepetts. I now have the pleasure in saying my Wing is back up and running. With the advise from Rednax, I replaced the R/R with the new style Super Mosfet Kit FH020AA from Roadstercycle.com, and it was great idea. I also moved the mounting location to inside the left saddlebag so it will run cooler instead of being heated up by the motor as it sits under the false tank shelter on the original R/R bracket.

To run the wires, I drilled 2-1/2" holes just below the cover and ran the wires thru them and snaked them thru the frame to the battery and installed new stator wires. It was a perfect fit. Now baring any other problems I now have my bike back on the road again. Its been a LONG wait since last December when it broke down, but "good things come to those who wait.........long enough" lol.

Temps here in Tucson are a nice upper 70* with bright sunny skies. Perfect motorcycle riding weather. Hope ya'll have as good weather as we have here.

Regards,

Stuart, a.k.a. roadwanderer2.



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