UNOBTAINIUM 2.0 PANEL 83160-MN5-XXX (Firecreek style)


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Re: UNOBTAINIUM 2.0 PANEL 83160-MN5-XXX (Firecreek style)

Post by gwjturner » Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:35 am



Any idea what the diameter of the original Firecreek gauges are? They fill out the panel nicely.



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Re: UNOBTAINIUM 2.0 PANEL 83160-MN5-XXX (Firecreek style)

Post by Stew » Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:06 pm

bluthundr31 wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:49 pm
I'm wondering, , , , Would there be any interest, or advantage in getting the "Gauge Visor" at the same time when purchasing a new Unobtainium 2.0 panel???
It could be an "OPTION" but there would have to be an additional charge for the visor. It looks VERY seamless mounted on the panel, , , ,
Glendale_GAUGEVISOR.jpg

The oil pressure and voltmeter seem to be a popular combination for this panel, , They look great too!!!
MaxTow_OiPressure.jpg

MaxTow_Volts.jpg

Any and all ideas/feedback welcome!!!
Let me know when this is for sale, I'll get one for my panel!
Winging it every chance I get 8-)

19,119 miles when I got it from dad Oct 15, 2017 --- 26,975 miles and counting as of Aug 15, 2019!

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Re: UNOBTAINIUM 2.0 PANEL 83160-MN5-XXX (Firecreek style)

Post by gwjturner » Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:47 pm

The visor you may be looking for is available here:

http://www.dashvisor.com/Gauge-Visor.html#

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Re: UNOBTAINIUM 2.0 PANEL 83160-MN5-XXX (Firecreek style)

Post by bluthundr31 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:58 pm

Stew (and anyone else interested in the gauge visor),

The gauge visor is available for $15.00 +$3.95 S/H from Airtech Fabricators in Glendale AZ. The link to it is on the first page of this thread, but here it is again,
http://www.dashvisor.com/Gauge-Visor.html

I'm waiting for a call-back from Jim, the owner to pick his brain and get a handful of those visors. I left a message but he hasn't called back yet.

I would include the visor with the panel shipping so you could save the $3.95 S/H

UPDATE: I just spoke to Jim at Airtech Fabricators and he is checking to see what he has as inventory/material. I should know more within a few days. He sounds like a really nice gentleman so I'm hoping to be able to offer the visor as an option in the near future.

GWJTurner, the Firecreek gauges were called 2" gauges, IIRC. The Unobtainium 2.0 is identical and will accommodate the same size gauges.

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Re: UNOBTAINIUM 2.0 PANEL 83160-MN5-XXX (Firecreek style)

Post by bluthundr31 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:45 pm

I spoke to Jim at Airtech Fabricators and bought a small number of visors for the Unobtainium 2.0 panels, they should be arriving next week.

He (Jim) charges just under $19 (shipping included) for the visors, but IF it is purchased along with an Unobtainium 2.0 panel, the cost for the visor will be $16.50 and shipped in the same box as the panel. Anyone interested in the Visor ALONE, the cost will be the same as Jim would charge (under $19).

They are a seamless fit/appearance when mounted and will solve any "sun glare" for daytime riding, or "night reflection" off the windshield for nighttime riding.



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Re: UNOBTAINIUM 2.0 PANEL 83160-MN5-XXX (Firecreek style)

Post by bluthundr31 » Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:29 pm

The Gauge Visors came in and they'll make a great addition to your panel!! They clearly block direct sunlight and will easily prevent "reflection" off the windshield for night-riding.

I used some double-sided tape for the pictures, , the tape is NOT a long-term option though, , I'm including a tap-screw with each purchase of the visor that will be the long-term solution. The visors are a black "cow-hide" texture and matches the panel nicely.







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Re: UNOBTAINIUM 2.0 PANEL 83160-MN5-XXX (Firecreek style)

Post by ray3055 » Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:30 am

Just finishes installing my Volt gauge and front/back balancer. Went for a long ride and had no problem reading the gauge in the sunlight. The green numbers are nice and clear while riding but not so clear in the picture, must have been the angle. I haven't ridden at night yet to see if there is any reflection on the windshield, if there is I will order the visor.
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Re: UNOBTAINIUM 2.0 PANEL 83160-MN5-XXX (Firecreek style)

Post by bluthundr31 » Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:04 pm

GOOD JOB with that install. I think you did a fine job with that voltmeter, and fader mounting. If sun glare becomes a problem, I have a few gauge visors on hand, or you can contact Jim at Airtech Fabricators out of AZ. He's a good guy and he'll take care of you.

Is that the fader that came "stock" with the GL1500?? If it is, I love how it mounts nicely on the left node. A few "interested" riders were wondering if they could install their stock fader there, and I had no answer for them, , , , NOW I DO!!! Thanks

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Re: UNOBTAINIUM 2.0 PANEL 83160-MN5-XXX (Firecreek style)

Post by ray3055 » Sat Apr 20, 2019 4:58 pm

As far as I know that is the original fader. It was mounted in a small hump in the middle of the old panel. I just got the trike last July from American Trikes & Motorsports in NH, I traded in my 2007 Suzuki C50 with a Voyager Kit. This rides so much nicer and the wife loves the nice seat and smooth ride.

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Re: UNOBTAINIUM 2.0 PANEL 83160-MN5-XXX (Firecreek style)

Post by bluthundr31 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:56 pm

'll be dealing with a family issue and will be unable to send out any panels until after July 1, 2019.

My brother, who flew down to California last year just to be my "wingman" after I put my beast back together, was diagnosed with bladder cancer and is going "under-the-knife" on Monday (6/17) at Mayo Clinic in AZ. He's the best brother anyone could have, , , and all "prayers" or "good thoughts" would be appreciated.

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Re: UNOBTAINIUM 2.0 PANEL 83160-MN5-XXX (Firecreek style)

Post by Rednaxs60 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:44 pm

Cancer is not fun wherever. Had throat cancer 5 years ago. Thoughts are with you, hope all goes well.
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Re: UNOBTAINIUM 2.0 PANEL 83160-MN5-XXX (Firecreek style)

Post by RockportDave » Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:37 am

bluthundr31 wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:56 pm
'll be dealing with a family issue and will be unable to send out any panels until after July 1, 2019.

My brother, who flew down to California last year just to be my "wingman" after I put my beast back together, was diagnosed with bladder cancer and is going "under-the-knife" on Monday (6/17) at Mayo Clinic in AZ. He's the best brother anyone could have, , , and all "prayers" or "good thoughts" would be appreciated.

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Blu,
Will be praying for him, y’all and everyone involved.
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Re: UNOBTAINIUM 2.0 PANEL 83160-MN5-XXX (Firecreek style)

Post by T_birdman » Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:40 pm

Hey Dennis, I'm very sorry about your brother, but with you there for him he should at the very least feel better about it all. Keep a positive outlook, and things will work out.

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Re: UNOBTAINIUM 2.0 PANEL 83160-MN5-XXX (Firecreek style)

Post by 4given » Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:33 pm

Praying for steady hands and miraculous healing and for a strong faith Blu

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Re: UNOBTAINIUM 2.0 PANEL 83160-MN5-XXX (Firecreek style)

Post by bigsteveswing » Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:05 am

Best wishes to your brother and your entire family!

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Re: UNOBTAINIUM 2.0 PANEL 83160-MN5-XXX (Firecreek style)

Post by bluthundr31 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:22 am

My brother pulled through the surgery fine and is in recovery for a few more days.


Thank you for all the prayers and good thoughts

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Re: UNOBTAINIUM 2.0 PANEL 83160-MN5-XXX (Firecreek style)

Post by T_birdman » Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:44 pm

Outstanding! Glad it worked out well for you and your family!

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Re: UNOBTAINIUM 2.0 PANEL 83160-MN5-XXX (Firecreek style)

Post by DenverWinger » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:00 am

Finally getting around to do something with the Unobtanium 2.0 panel I got this spring...

Ordered MaxTow Voltage and Oil Pressure gauges, in black face with blue backlight, matches the bike's instrument panel.


The MaxTow oil pressure sensor is threaded 1/8 NPT-27, and being this is going on a Honda I have little reason to believe the threads in the block for the oil pressure switch will be NPT.

So I did a little research, seems the threads used will be most likely 1/8 BSPT-28

BSP vs NPT

NPT threads are common in the United States and a few other countries, BSP threads are widely used in many other countries.

BSPT -British Standard Pipe Taper
BSPP -British Standard Pipe Parallel
NPT -National Pipe Taper
NPS -National Pipe Straight
While the actual specified outside diameters of American National Pipe differ slightly from those of British Standard Pipe, either thread may reliably be cut onto a pipe of its respective trade size. BSPT equivalent is NPT and BSPP’s equivalent is NPS.

Never swap threads if it is a high pressure application.

NPT/NPS and BSP threads are not compatible due to the differences in their thread forms, and not just the fact that most sizes have a different pitch. NPT/NPS threads have a 60° angle and have flattened peaks and valleys (Sellers thread form) where as BSP threads have a 55° angle and have rounded peaks and valleys (Whitworth thread form).


I found a nifty little thread adapter, and it specifically mentions using it on a Honda (automobile) engine block. No reason to believe the motorcycle block will be different.
http://k-tuned.3dcartstores.com/Oil-Pre ... p_612.html


Remains to be seen if all of this (adapter and two sensors) will fit inside the front lower cover on the 1500, will keep you posted...
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Re: UNOBTAINIUM 2.0 PANEL 83160-MN5-XXX (Firecreek style)

Post by bluthundr31 » Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:28 pm

REALLY IMPRESSIVE LOOKING GAUGES MARK!!

I was looking at those too, , ,would love to see the finished product. They'd match the blue dash lights/radio lights on my beast too.

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Re: UNOBTAINIUM 2.0 PANEL 83160-MN5-XXX (Firecreek style)

Post by DenverWinger » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:23 pm

The MaxTow Gauges were delivered yesterday.

Did a little bench testing with the volt meter and a couple of power supplies, one variable.

This volt meter has two power connections, one is supposed to go to "Always On" power (presumably to keep the dimmer settings in memory) and the other to switched power.

I wanted to test to see which of these two leads the unit takes the voltage measurement from. I connected the "Always Hot" lead to the variable power supply, set it to 12.5 volts, and the lead for the "Accessory" power connection to the fixed 13.8v power supply and the neg terminals all common to see if it measured 12.5 or 13.8 when this was powered up. It showed 12.5.

The good news is it takes the readings from the "Always Hot" lead and NOT the Accessory Power lead, which means you can connect "Always Hot" directly to the battery to get a true reading of the voltage right at the battery, regardless of the voltage on the accessory terminals. As I varied the voltage on this supply, the meter tracked perfectly and the readings agreed with my Fluke multimeter within 0.1volt.

Current draw from the "Always Hot" lead was 75mA with the unit powered up on accessory power, and dropped to unmeasureable on the power supply ammeter (<5mA) when "accessory" power was shut off. So the "Always Hot" load on the bike battery will be negligible. :D

The Oil Pressure gauge requires an "Alway Hot" connection, too. I expect it will draw the same standby current as the voltmeter, and likely even less....
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Re: UNOBTAINIUM 2.0 PANEL 83160-MN5-XXX (Firecreek style)

Post by T_birdman » Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:02 pm

Nice! We all hate those tiny little current drains that work against you when you go to start the bike and find the battery drained! Keep us posted when you get it in and if you run into any issues down the road!

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Re: UNOBTAINIUM 2.0 PANEL 83160-MN5-XXX (Firecreek style)

Post by WingAdmin » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:19 pm

DenverWinger wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:23 pm
The good news is it takes the readings from the "Always Hot" lead and NOT the Accessory Power lead, which means you can connect "Always Hot" directly to the battery to get a true reading of the voltage right at the battery, regardless of the voltage on the accessory terminals.
Of course you meant "directly to the battery through a fuse", right? :)

Sounds like you could safely put a 0.5a (don't think they come smaller than that) blade fuse on that circuit.

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Re: UNOBTAINIUM 2.0 PANEL 83160-MN5-XXX (Firecreek style)

Post by DenverWinger » Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:42 pm

Absolutely thru a fuse. This old tech knows better. :D

Pleased to see it won't be measuring accessory terminal voltage. 8-)


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