12” MadStad on 1999 GL1500


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12” MadStad on 1999 GL1500

Post by RockportDave » Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:26 pm



I finally made it home to install my new MadStad windshield.




I believe I could install it in 1-1 1/2 hours, but taking photos took about 2 1/2 hours. I ordered the windshield through Cyclemax on 1/26 and received it 2/1. I used MadStad’s size reference (posted on Cyclemax site also) and got the 12” for my height of 5’ 9”. I got the light gray.
It was well packed in the box with bubble wrap. All the pieces were there. The instructions were 8 pages with “Honda Gold Wing GL1800/GL1500” on front (maybe same kit?). It also had a parts/pieces list and tools needed list on front. The instructions are very informative.
MadStad does note in the instructions the mounting plate is NOT designed to sit all the way down at the bottom of the Honda Factory windshield sliding range because the bracket fasteners may hit the fairing or top of dash. This may be the case on the GL1800, but the fasteners on mine are at least 1-1/2” above the dash and about 4” above the windshield fairing trim. I did raise the mounting plate about 1/4” above the bottom to clear 2 tabs on the OEM fairing.


One thing MadStad does not point out is the mounting plate is about 0.215” thick and the middle 3 windshield setting plates have only 0.205” clearance. So the mounting plate will not slide as the OEM windshield does.




There are rubber well nuts attached to the windshield that the screws go into to attach the windshield. When installing the windshield to the brackets, the screws do not tighten down as normal tightening goes, there is no resistance felt when tightening. The instructions mention “DO NOT OVERTIGHTEN THE T-SCREWS”, so I called MadStad (had a rep within a minute) and asked how tight to get the screws. He said to screw them in until I see the well nuts swell and start to show a “white color”. The “white color” is easy to see as they start to swell. When complete, I had just over 1/8” of thread coming out past the well nuts.




There was little to no wind blowing this morning, so when trying out the MadStad there was no crosswinds. After installing the MadStad and with the bike on the center stand, I set it at 60° (using the template on back of the instructions and a small level) and set it at the lowest level. I rode at different speeds, setting at different heights and angles to get the “feel” of it. There is wind, but not the turbulent wind the OEM windshield had. I found about 1/2 way up and approximately 60°is comfortable for me. I get a “smooth” wind on the sides of my face, but a lot less directly in my face. Feels better than the vent on the OEM. I can see over the windshield up to about 25’ while sitting in my usual position.
At the lowest setting, I can see over the windshield up to approximately 20’ in front of the bike and see through the windshield up to about 8’. I never really noticed the brackets. The black mounting plate did not seem to impair the ability to see in front of me, in fact I didn really notice it either.


At the highest setting I can see over it approximately 30-35’.


I rode on the highway at 75 mph at different settings and found the 1/2 up and 60° to be the most comfortable. I did get behind a semi at 70 and the wind was moving the bike around as usual, but the wind on me was not as bad as the OEM windshield. After I went around the semi at 75, the bike settled down as usual and the wind on me was about the same.
We had thick fog/light drizzle this morning, so there was water collecting on the windshield. My glasses were not getting water on them while moving over 40-45 mph. I did encounter light rain for about 2 miles and it seemed when moving, I wasn’t getting rain on me. I did notice the drops on the windshield would run up the outside, but would quickly go over the top and run quicker down the inside of the windshield past the black mounting plate. The drops on the sides of the windshield would go to the edge and blow out away from the bike. There were drops on the black mounting plate top edge, but I never noticed them hitting me. I did notice drops hitting the bike forward of the radio, but not much if any reached me.
I picked up the wife for lunch and at 45 mph, she said there was wind, but not as turbulent as the OEM windshield. We didn’t get to do much riding 2 up, so I will experiment with different angles and heights later.
I am very pleased with the MadStad and in my opinion, it performs as advertised. I really like the ability to see over the top and still block wind (will know this summer if it blocks bugs!). I am looking forward to having the ability to adjust for more air flow this summer with our 95+° temps.
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Re: 12” MadStad on 1999 GL1500

Post by MikeB » Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:56 am

Nice write up Dave. Thanks for sharing.
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Re: 12” MadStad on 1999 GL1500

Post by DenverWinger » Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:04 am

It will be interesting to see how it affects your fuel economy...

My fuel economy always seems to be a little lower than the reported "averages" for a 1500, but the PO put a huge aftermarket windshield on it (forget the name, there's a sticker on the bottom with name and logo, too cold to go out and look). I'm 6' 6", and I have to stretch to see over the windshield, so I usually looking through it.

So I'm pretty certain the windshield is eating a couple MPG.... :roll:

Might consider one for my bike....
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Re: 12” MadStad on 1999 GL1500

Post by RockportDave » Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:00 am

MikeB wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:56 am
Nice write up Dave. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks MikeB.
I decided to get one after reading AZgl1800’s, chads920’s and Moutain rider’s reviews and comments on them. Thanks to them for their reviews.
DenverWinger wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:04 am
It will be interesting to see how it affects your fuel economy...

My fuel economy always seems to be a little lower than the reported "averages" for a 1500, but the PO put a huge aftermarket windshield on it (forget the name, there's a sticker on the bottom with name and logo, too cold to go out and look). I'm 6' 6", and I have to stretch to see over the windshield, so I usually looking through it.

So I'm pretty certain the windshield is eating a couple MPG.... :roll:

Might consider one for my bike....
DenverWinger,
Looks like good weather for today, so we’re probably gonna get some riding in. We have a pretty consistent 35 mpg, checking at every fill up since getting the bike running right. I’ll check it after today’s ride and see if the MadStad helps.
I really like being able to see over the windshield. Three weeks ago we rode in a lot of rain and constantly wiping off the windshield was a pain.
I was bored last Sunday in North Houston, so I went to Cycle Gear to check out rain gear. They had Frogg Toggs, but more than I wanted to pay, so I got on Frogg Toggs website and found men’s Road Toad jackets and pants in the clearance section. I paid just under $50 a set with free shipping. They didn’t have women’s in the clearance section, so I got the wife a set of men’s medium which seem to fit her well.
Not a bad deal for Frogg Toggs.
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Re: 12” MadStad on 1999 GL1500

Post by AZgl1800 » Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:21 am

There are rubber well nuts attached to the windshield that the screws go into to attach the windshield. When installing the windshield to the brackets, the screws do not tighten down as normal tightening goes, there is no resistance felt when tightening. The instructions mention “DO NOT OVERTIGHTEN THE T-SCREWS”, so I called MadStad (had a rep within a minute) and asked how tight to get the screws. He said to screw them in until I see the well nuts swell and start to show a “white color”. The “white color” is easy to see as they start to swell. When complete, I had just over 1/8” of thread coming out past the well nuts.
we also put in a call to the guys at Madstad, and the call was picked up almost immediately.

I believe that we learned from the phone call about the thickness situation,
and also that the OEM sliders are still functional, but going to feel a lot stiffer than OEM windscreen.

The single sheet of paper supplied with the Madstad windscreen is a bit short on details... but once you figure it out, it is all that is really needed.

I have no idea if the same Madstad will fit both the 1800 and the 1500, but I seriously doubt it. the curvature is different, and the width of the mounting points is a bit different.

I will say, that it is a LOT easier to mount, than the previous Tulsa Tall and one I bought from Missouri.. " acura? " ( my memory makes me mad, the lack of it that is )
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Re: 12” MadStad on 1999 GL1500

Post by RockportDave » Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:05 pm

We rode to Padre Island today. Ran 55-60 mph to the ferry, idled in the ferry line for 30-45 minutes, rode 60 mph to Padre Island and 65-75 mph through Corpus Christi back to Rockport. 118 miles and averaged 36.6 mpg. Not bad for our bike.
We also learned don’t order the double at Steerburger and don’t sit on a beach towel on wet sand. The honey ham Steerburger with honey mustard was one of the best burgers I’ve had, but the double was a lot of burger. We sat on the beach at Padre Island and not thinking, put the towel on the “dark” sand which after a few minutes will be wet sand. Rode home with wet butts.
Riding after dark I pulled the windshield all the way up and looking through it, the tint helped with the headlights glare. Wasn’t a lot, but I could tell a slight difference.
The wife said she gets the wind, but it’s not the turbulent wind she was getting with the OEM windshield.
I have a rattle from the MadStad when going over bumpy roads. When I get more time to ride I’ll figure it out.
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Re: 12” MadStad on 1999 GL1500

Post by AZgl1800 » Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:06 pm

good review, I got a chuckle out of the dark sand..... :P
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Re: 12” MadStad on 1999 GL1500

Post by NevadaDave » Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:42 pm

I also have a '99 GL1500, and the PO had installed a very tall windshield on it. I'm 6'2" and I have to stand on the pegs to see over it. I get a lot of buffeting, especially at the back of my head, when riding. I found this review very interesting, but when I went to the Madstad website, I noticed that these is no listing for the GL1500:
https://madstad.com/collections/honda
Any reason for this?

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Re: 12” MadStad on 1999 GL1500

Post by MikeB » Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:14 pm

NevadaDave wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:42 pm
I also have a '99 GL1500, and the PO had installed a very tall windshield on it. I'm 6'2" and I have to stand on the pegs to see over it. I get a lot of buffeting, especially at the back of my head, when riding. I found this review very interesting, but when I went to the Madstad website, I noticed that these is no listing for the GL1500:
https://madstad.com/collections/honda
Any reason for this?
You will most likely get the best answer by asking them at Madstad. That being said, if you are looking to buy one, Cyclemax is a good source. They do not have any in stock at the present but they will make an order as needed. https://cyclemax.com/inc/sdetail/gl1500 ... eld/332249
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Re: 12” MadStad on 1999 GL1500

Post by AZgl1800 » Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:00 pm

NevadaDave wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:42 pm
I also have a '99 GL1500, and the PO had installed a very tall windshield on it. I'm 6'2" and I have to stand on the pegs to see over it. I get a lot of buffeting, especially at the back of my head, when riding. I found this review very interesting, but when I went to the Madstad website, I noticed that these is no listing for the GL1500:
https://madstad.com/collections/honda
Any reason for this?
I had two 1500s with the Tulsa Tall windscreen, and like you, had to stand up to see over them.

I bought my Madstad direct from the factory, after visiting with them on the phone. dunno if I paid more that way?
The listings for the 1500 come and go, I can't imagine that they would just stop making them.... CycleMax shows them as being an Order Only item....
and the reason for that was, the owner of MadStad told me that he only builds them as orders come in..... he has all of the hardware, but the options are so wide, he just puts the kits together "when ordered".

Madstad is a terrific windshield, and is the best thing I have done for my bike, right next to installing Mick-O-Pegs.... you can raise/lower the height on the fly easily, and I do inspite of their warning to not do so.

you can change the angle to have air in your face, or over your head... it is just the greatest thing since sliced bread. :mrgreen:
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Re: 12” MadStad on 1999 GL1500

Post by Ride On » Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:45 pm

Installed a Madstad 16" on my 2002 GL 1800 and just love it. I am only 5'11" and set at the lowest setting I am able to see over the windshield. I do sit on a pretty thick sheep skin. I wanted to 16" so I could get maximum coverage when the little wife rides with me. Happy wife gets you a happy life and maybe even a new bike down the road she said.

I will say if I was to do it all over again, maybe on that new bike my wife was talking about, I would have seen if Madstad could have made me a 16" windshield that was 2" to 2 1/12" wider on each side as I still get a little more wind on these old shoulders and arms and I think if would have added even more comfort for the little Misses. But she really loves this windshield compared to the stock windshield for sure.

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Re: 12” MadStad on 1999 GL1500

Post by RockportDave » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:45 pm

We just took a 50 mile ride to one of our favorite restaurants and rode back after dark. It’s around 65-70° and foggy in spots. When going through town the windshield would fog up and it was sure nice to be able to look over the top. While riding the highway, the windshield would clear up and I am able to look through it when the lights on the oncoming traffic are too bright. It does cut down the glare slightly.
I pretty much keep it halfway up and about 60° tilt and the wind is good.
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Re: 12” MadStad on 1999 GL1500

Post by RockportDave » Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:51 am

RockportDave wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:05 pm
I have a rattle from the MadStad when going over bumpy roads. When I get more time to ride I’ll figure it out.
Dave
I found the rattle. The lower fixed bolts on the brackets are rattling. They have lock nuts on them and the tension is preset by MadStad. I only hear it when riding slowly on side streets with bumps. I tightened them slightly so we’ll see if that helps. Now that I’ve found the “sweet spot” for the adjustment, I probably won’t be moving it much.
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Post by AZgl1800 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:32 am

yes
it takes a while to learn where the "sweet spot" is....
at first, I was moving it to full extremes, just because I could :D

But, once the fun of that wore off, I now leave it below eyeline, and no wind in my face.... it is wonderful...

I am now in Dawsonville, GA visiting with my son....
my ride here is the little Piaggio MP3 :D scooter, the windscreen on that is 12 inches below "eyeline" :?

a fun bike as long as 68 mph top speed is "good enough"
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Re: 12” MadStad on 1999 GL1500

Post by RockportDave » Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:12 pm

We took a 200 mile ride yesterday and the rattling has all but gone away. It was mid 80°s so I lowered the windshield and it was very comfortable. Had a lot of 65-75 mph runs and the wind coming from the front was smooth. I get more area coverage than I did with the OEM windshield, but it’s a lot easier. The wife gets about the same, but easier as well.
Hit a lot of bugs, but none made it to me. The wife has a face shield and she got a few.
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Re: 12” MadStad on 1999 GL1500

Post by AZgl1800 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:00 pm

RockportDave wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:12 pm

Hit a lot of bugs, but none made it to me. The wife has a face shield and she got a few.
Dave
this reminded me of a midnight run on my 1958 Cushman scooter one night, going back home from Yukon, OK to OKC....

no helmet, no jacket, just the armor we wore then, T-shirt and jeans.

a June bug hit me in the mouth, what a horrible taste it was....
almost never got it out of my throat... :twisted:
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Re: 12” MadStad on 1999 GL1500

Post by RockportDave » Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:19 pm

I have stopped on the side of a busy highway more than once to get bees and bugs out of my pants...dropping them if needed.
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Re: 12” MadStad on 1999 GL1500

Post by RockportDave » Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:36 pm

Rode the bike to work today. 95° and 85% humidity on the way home with plenty of sunshine. It is definitely cooler with the MadStad windshield. I get a lot more wind and with the wind wings I don’t get near the heat from the engine.
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Re: 12” MadStad on 1999 GL1500

Post by AZgl1800 » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:06 pm

I have found that the Madstad can be raised high enough to make the wind go over my helmet and keep rain out of my face....

What it does not do though, is keep it totally off of your shoulders like the Tulsa Tall that I used to have.

But, the improved view, plus being able to get more "wind in my face" if needed, allows the vents on the Shoei helmet to do their job. that never happened before, and has improved my ability to ride in warmer temperatures.

At the other end of the height adjustment, I love being able to drop it down to about chest height, but the wind still goes over my head. The unique dual layer of the windshields does a great job.
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Re: 12” MadStad on 1999 GL1500

Post by keithg64 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:59 am

I installed my new madstad last week. 14 inch on my 07. I played with it a little because our weather wasn't the best last week. Over the weekend I rode it up to around 65 mph and found that sweet spot. Rode it to work this morning and wow, the wind turbulance is virtually gone. It was a lot quieter and definitely no pressure on the back of my helmet from the wind. I'll do more of an update later when I get enough time with it. So far its been less than 200 miles. But so far I'm very pleased.


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