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GL 1500 seat upholstery

Post by Mh434 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:51 pm



Well, after 22 years, the upholstery on my '97 SE's seat is coming apart. Not just at the seams, but even in non-stressed areas. Little cracks & tears appearing all over both the seat & the passenger's backrest.

I ordered what I thought was a Honda OEM replacement seat cover, but turns out to be just a rain cover (the built-in kind at the back of the seat, which I already have). When I looked at the micro fiche, it certainly appeared to be the upholstery fabric cover to me (part #-77650-MAM-770). Apparently not - that part # is the little black nylon rain cover that lives in the small triangular section at the back of the seat itself.


There seem to be very, very few options out there for repair/replacement. I've looked at lots of replacement covers on Ebay, but in the pictures they're universally ugly - ill-fitting & baggy, with wrinkles everywhere.

The option, of course, is the replacement seats offered by Saddlemen, etc., but the cost is so astronomical to someone on a fixed income (pension) like me that they're impossible to afford. Most of them would be $1500-$2000 by the time it landed in Canada.

If anyone comes across a good (i.e. no tears etc.) late model, black GL1500 seat or cover, for a reasonable price, I'd like to hear about it.

Or, has anyone here ever tried one of the Ebay-offered seat covers that actually fit?? If so, I'd ALSO like to hear about it, as well as which company sells it!



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Re: GL 1500 seat upholstery

Post by tnt9339 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:35 pm

I had the same problem. Ended up buying this one;
www.ebay.com/itm/New-Genuine-Honda-Seat ... XQltxQ7h~p
And the backrest;
www.ebay.com/itm/New-Honda-Passenger-Ba ... Swo4pYPyYc

It is a Honda seat. Better than a cover because it is all new.

The covers that are out there are not cheap.

Something to consider.

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Re: GL 1500 seat upholstery

Post by Mh434 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:32 pm

Thanks - that’s a big help! The shipping to Canada through EBay is prohibitive, but it DID get me the Honda OEM part number. I was trying a Canadian distributor (even the prices are in $CDN), but when I got them on the phone, they advise that item can’t be shipped outside the USA (???).

Anyway, it turns out that Partzilla carries them, have a sale on, and offer free shipping within the USA. Thankfully, we have a local company that does trans-national shipping at a very reasonable rate, and they have a US address just across the border in Blaine, WA that it can be shipped to (for free!).

That way, my only shipping cost is through SaeWings - about $20 CDN (or about $8 USD :D ).

Hopefully this works! It’s looking good so far, anyway.

THANK YOU for the help!! I was getting desperate :(

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Re: GL 1500 seat upholstery

Post by Mh434 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:20 am

Well, after FURTHER research (and the assistance of a Honda parts expert), it turns out the part I ordered from Partzilla isn't an upholstery cover for my existing seat - it's an entire, brand new, OEM Honda GL1500 seat, ready to bolt on...for $251.16 (and free shipping)! Wow - compared to the cost of just covers alone, this is a steal!!

Of course, as my buddy says, my luck is consistent - if it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all - so I'll withhold judgement until it gets here, but it sure sounds promising!!

What amazes me is that after 22 years, it appears Honda is STILL manufacturing many parts for my GL1500. Wow!

Keep your fingers crossed for me! I'll keep you posted...

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Re: GL 1500 seat upholstery

Post by Rambozo » Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:34 am

But did you get the special Canadian seat?

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Re: GL 1500 seat upholstery

Post by CrystalPistol » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:28 pm

Mh434 wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:20 am
if it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all -
"Gloom, Dispair, … etc " https://www.bing.com/search?q=gloom+des ... 61ffff64fc

Glad you found one. I've seen a bunch on Ebay.

I have mine still, with Utopia backrest I added. Gonna keep it too. It is far better than the OEM one that was on my 1200 before I put a Corbin on it.
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Re: GL 1500 seat upholstery

Post by Mh434 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:54 pm

Rambozo wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:34 am
But did you get the special Canadian seat?
Sadly, no. I couldn't find that one listed anywhere on earth.

However, that particular panel on my existing seat is in brand-new condition. I'm thinking I may remove it from the old cover, and mount it on a suitably-shaped plaque, to be hung in my shop over the bike, or to be included with it in the event that I move the bike on at some time in the future.

I even gave thought to having it stitched into place on the new seat, but if it's a complete unit, it's probably not wise to remove the cover to do that. :roll:

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Re: GL 1500 seat upholstery

Post by Straydogg » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:16 pm

I know I'm late to the party here but I was wondering how things turned out for you. I, too, bought a new Honda seat on eBay for my 1989. The bike had 66000 miles and the original seat just didn't work for me anymore. The new seat was better but still wasn't what I consider comfortable. Maybe it's just that I'm spoiled from having a Diamond Custom seat on my old '83 Wing for 25 years. I'm hoping you have better luck than I did.

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Re: GL 1500 seat upholstery

Post by Mh434 » Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:13 pm

I've found the original seat to be comfortable for me, but each of us is an individual, so the "fit" is somewhat arbitrary.

After looking up the price of a GL1800 seat for another poster here (about $1700), I still find it hard to believe that for only $250, I'm actually getting an entire, original, OEM seat for my GL1500, particularly when the little nylon pull-over rain cover that lives in the back of the seat is $170, all by itself. That would mean that the rest of the seat is only....$80 on top of that???

Of course, I'm in Canada, so by the time the difference in the dollar & customs duties are added, it will be more like $400, but still....

Supposedly, it will be shipping today, via USPS, so it will probably be a couple of weeks before I see it.

I'll keep you posted...

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Re: GL 1500 seat upholstery

Post by Straydogg » Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:40 pm

Correct. All butts are different I suppose. lol The one I bought on eBay didn't have a rain cover included. No zipper in that small piece for it to store. Hope ya like it! Thanks

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Re: GL 1500 seat upholstery

Post by Mh434 » Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:05 pm

My new seat arrived today!

A few observations:

- it's clearly an OEM Honda seat, but the upholstery fit isn't quite as nice & tight as the original. There are plainly visible baggy spots & wrinkles that are clearly there to stay. Perhaps that will help it to not split, but it doesn't look quite as nice as the original.

- Contrary to what Honda says for that part number, it's NOT entirely black, but rather 2-tone black and grey (visible in the pics). Not the end of the world, but not original per the bike. I've also ordered a replacement OEM passenger's back rest, as that's splitting as well. It's currently en route from Japan. I have NO idea if it will be black or 2-tone. At this point, I'm hoping for the former, for some consistency.

- While it's ostensibly for all '97 (and other year) models of the 'Wing, it doesn't have the pull-over-seat-cover that is integral in the SE model seat. Back to plastic bags, I suppose. No real way to retrofit onto the new seat, because:

- The new seat is subtly different in shape from the original. The passenger's portion of the original has raised up, triangular bolsters on each side to "cradle" the butt of your seatmate, whereas the new one is quite flat. Who knows, for those passenger's blessed with an abundance of onboard seat padding, perhaps the extra width will be more....accommodating.

- The original was so well fitted to the bike that it was only necessary to toss the mounting bolts in the direction of the seat, and they'd almost bolt themselves into place. The new one, not so much. It took an hour and a half to get the first of the 4 bolts to finally catch a thread, after using a taper to try to align the holes. Of course, I have a back rest, which complicates matters. Without it, mounting might have been easier.

All in all, it was still a worthwhile purchase, and the cost in my opinion was better than spending the same amount on a seat cover & having to mount it, which could be difficult to achieve with any degree of professional appearance, depending on your skill level. In my case, there AIN'T no "skill level", so it would have looked like a leather upholstered warthog. This was definitely easier.

Anyway, here's a couple of pics of the new seat:





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Re: GL 1500 seat upholstery

Post by DenverWinger » Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:43 pm

Seat looks nice! This was my solution for stubborn seat bolts. I, too, fight a backrest.

https://www.cyclemax.com/inc/sdetail/ta ... /86/247206
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Re: GL 1500 seat upholstery

Post by Happytrails » Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:55 pm

Nice new seat and the price seems like a winner :D
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Re: GL 1500 seat upholstery

Post by MikeB » Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:04 pm

What you have there is a seat for a '98 ~ '00. The Black-Gray coloration plus different design of the passenger bolster is the tale tell signs.
The '98 ~ '00 did not have a seat cover in the bolster nor did it have a zipper pouch for it. It will fit your ride fine and the bolts will go in like your old after you have it on there for a while. Remember, the old one was on there for a long time. Naturally it fit like a glove. Also remember that no glove fits that good until it is broke in ;)
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Re: GL 1500 seat upholstery

Post by Straydogg » Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:09 pm

Mh434 wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:05 pm
My new seat arrived today!

A few observations:

- it's clearly an OEM Honda seat, but the upholstery fit isn't quite as nice & tight as the original. There are plainly visible baggy spots & wrinkles that are clearly there to stay. Perhaps that will help it to not split, but it doesn't look quite as nice as the original.

- Contrary to what Honda says for that part number, it's NOT entirely black, but rather 2-tone black and grey (visible in the pics). Not the end of the world, but not original per the bike. I've also ordered a replacement OEM passenger's back rest, as that's splitting as well. It's currently en route from Japan. I have NO idea if it will be black or 2-tone. At this point, I'm hoping for the former, for some consistency.

- While it's ostensibly for all '97 (and other year) models of the 'Wing, it doesn't have the pull-over-seat-cover that is integral in the SE model seat. Back to plastic bags, I suppose. No real way to retrofit onto the new seat, because:

- The new seat is subtly different in shape from the original. The passenger's portion of the original has raised up, triangular bolsters on each side to "cradle" the butt of your seatmate, whereas the new one is quite flat. Who knows, for those passenger's blessed with an abundance of onboard seat padding, perhaps the extra width will be more....accommodating.

- The original was so well fitted to the bike that it was only necessary to toss the mounting bolts in the direction of the seat, and they'd almost bolt themselves into place. The new one, not so much. It took an hour and a half to get the first of the 4 bolts to finally catch a thread, after using a taper to try to align the holes. Of course, I have a back rest, which complicates matters. Without it, mounting might have been easier.

All in all, it was still a worthwhile purchase, and the cost in my opinion was better than spending the same amount on a seat cover & having to mount it, which could be difficult to achieve with any degree of professional appearance, depending on your skill level. In my case, there AIN'T no "skill level", so it would have looked like a leather upholstered warthog. This was definitely easier.

Anyway, here's a couple of pics of the new seat:

IMG_2659.JPG

IMG_2658.JPG

That's a good looking seat ya got. Hope it's comfy for ya. I had a Markland backrest on mine too. I bought a BIG rain cover for the seat and it really didn't fit well. Now that I have an Ultimate Seat it doesn't work at all with the in-seat backrest. I got the Ultimate rain cover for it now and I'm good to go.

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Re: GL 1500 seat upholstery

Post by MikeB » Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:21 pm

By the way, the OEM seat does not need to be covered to keep it dry. The only part of it to get wet is the outer surface. The inner surface doesn't soak up water like the older bike seats would because the OEM seat is sealed vinyl. There's no stitching. So you really did not have to worry about having a cover for the seat unless you're just worried about your jeans getting wet.
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Re: GL 1500 seat upholstery

Post by Rambozo » Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:32 pm

There was a change in the seat at least for US models 88-97 and 98-00. It looks like the only one currently offered is the late version. They are both interchangeable, but they do look better with the matching backrest. The late backrest has larger side wings. I don't know how to id an early vs a late seat part, I just know there are two different patterns when I got my upholstery kit. And of course Canadian models had a different seat as well, but I don't know if that was just a different cover, or were there other subtle differences, too.
I'm sure it looks a lot better than it did. I hope I can do a good job when I change mine. If I had known how little I could get a new seat for, I would have done that for sure. (I still might if my attempt comes out like you feared, your's would) :o

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Re: GL 1500 seat upholstery

Post by CrystalPistol » Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:00 pm

I think you done real good. It's a good looking seat you ended up with, even if it's maybe not "tight".

This was what I found when I pealed a faded worn aftermarket cover off a "old seat" the PO had removed. I added the Utopia back rest soon afterwards. This was in 2012. I got the Corbin in 2015.




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