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William Hopgood
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experts only LOL TY 88 GL1500

Post by William Hopgood » Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:57 am



I have an 88 gl1500 my baby it has 150K miles was come back from a 1600 mile trip when i shift into 2nd gear i hear grinding gears..got it hauled back home took rear end off and spun trnny by hand no grinding notta put it all back together i needed reverse to help maneuver and there is again grinding when i put it back in 1st it popped ..from vids i researched it could be the shifter fork ... i motor runs fantastic but the work involved to drop motor and then split the case with the gaskets sealants plus i dont know if problem is on in the transmission shaft or the main shaft...also i dont know if grinding could be coming from the rear of motor im afraid it will cost me more to do all this work than it will to buy another scooter ...and if i buy a motor idk if the transmission on motors i buy will be any better salvage places don't test the gears before disassembly..i found a honda shadow 750 that may require minor batt issues for 500 plus TT&L ...and my bike motor is still good should i try to part her out ??? im poor and i need a ride now or asap ...im looking for advice from the experters .. i dont fear dropping the motor i only fear paying more than i have a still not having a ride .. all suggestions are welcome



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Re: experts only LOL TY 88 GL1500

Post by oldmopars » Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:17 am

This is a tough call. From a pure dollars standpoint an 88 with 150K+ miles on it is not worth much as far as resale and any investment into the repairs would exceed the value of the bike. However, it is not always that simple. If you have an emotional attachment to the bike, ie. it was your fathers bike, wedding present etc. that makes the call a bit harder.
If you can find a good deal on a low mileage engine the odds are the trans will be good. I have a parts bike with 175K miles and the trans is in great shape, its all the plastic that is junk. I faced the same issue, I have a 89 that runs strong, rides great and everything worked, but was ugly. It would have cost me twice the value of the bike for replacement plastic parts. I got it cheap, so no attachment. It is now the parts bike for my 96. I have saved more than I spent on just a few parts so far.
If you don't need or want another Goldwing, then the Shadow may be the right call, but it is a much smaller bike. It will have half or less power, small gas tank and little to no luggage space. But, they are great bikes for what they are.
Parting out bikes is a pain in the rear. You have to deal with people pulling part off, or you pulling them and selling them. Lots of work. I would sell it whole as a parts bike, even if the total $$ is less than if you sold it part by part.
Or, find a good deal on a Goldwing that needs the parts that are still good on your bike and do like i did, keep it for a parts bike for yourself.
I think you have several options, you just need to decide what is best for you. Start with how bad do you want or need a Goldwing, or will another bike work and go from there.

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Re: experts only LOL TY 88 GL1500

Post by dingdong » Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:41 am

Before you do anything drastic you may want to check you clutch for proper operation. Fluid, master cylinder and slave cylinder. Either or all.
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Post by William Hopgood » Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:52 pm

my clutch fluid did go own but it operates fine . now when i roll it backwards it clinks ...will a valkyrie motor fit in there i know valkyrie motors have 6 carbs but could i use my old intake on it ...idk if imm going to be happy with a 750 its just to small and weak ....i dont need a GW all the time man its hard to go from a caddy to a pinto ....i dont have yard to park my bike i live in an apt so if it don't run it gets towed my buddy said i can work on it at his house but not to store it there uggg thank you guys for responding

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Re: experts only LOL TY 88 GL1500

Post by tsandvik » Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:54 am

I am just finishing up replacing the engine on my 90 1500 Aspencade.

Sorry to say, no matter what others may infer, this is a very very tough job unless you have help and all the tools and lifts one can dream of. There is a lot of vacuum lines and cooling lines that have to be disconnected and reconnected correctly. Starter, battery box with battery and alternator have to be taken off. Starter is tough as it has hidden bolts that are hard to get to. The cooling fans have to be pulled (no fun at all and worse getting back in). Take off exhaust manifold oh and remove the intake manifolds also. Disconnect the final drive train. There is a lot of heavy lifting and bleeding involved.

Many things I am sure I have forgotten in order to save my sanity. I have worked on, rebuilt and swapped out engines on everything from older american iron to Porches. This is by far the hardest project I have taken on in my 67 years on this planet. Hate to think of what would have been involved in cracking the engine and rebuilding the transmission, or at minimum replacing shift fork, on the existing engine.

As previously said, unless there is a DEEP emotional attachment or you have a lot of time on your hands combined with a masochistic streak, sell or use this bike for parts or sell as parts bike. The price for older Goldwings in great shape is amazingly low (at least in the central Florida area).

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Re: experts only LOL TY 88 GL1500

Post by Mh434 » Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:22 pm

Seriously, you need to investigate the clutch system, from one end to the other. I expect that the clutch activation is 90% likely the problem.

At the very least, remove the clutch master cylinder and rebuild or replace it. if fluid is seeping by, even the tiniest bit, it will cause the symptoms you have. Consider that the master cylinder is probably almost 30 years old now - it's BOUND to be worn & leaky.

Start there. It's relatively cheap, it's relatively easy, and it's most likely your problem.

That's my advice, anyway.

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Re: experts only LOL TY 88 GL1500

Post by oldmopars » Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:43 am

Yep, check the clutch. It may even be worth it to you to take it to a bike mechanic. He will at least be able to tell you if the clutch is the issue, or if the engine need to come out to be fixed. If it is the engine, refer to my earlier comments.
If it costs you $200 for a diagnosis, and maybe find out it is the clutch and he can fix it, then you are good to go. If he says it is deeper, then you are only out the diagnosis fee and you can make a better informed decision. It would suck to let the bike go super cheap and find out the new owner spent $50 for some clutch parts as he rides by your house and waves. :o

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Re: experts only LOL TY 88 GL1500

Post by tsandvik » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:23 am

So very true. I was basing most of my reply on getting the dreaded 3 4 gear problem. Rough shifting and noise can very well be nothing more than the slave clutch and connections getting trashed out from water or other leakage. Cleaning up and suggest rebuild of both master and slave is relatively inexpensive and can be done by owner without extensive removal of other components. Had similar hard shift on last 1200. Rebuilding the master did the trick for the next 40,000 miles.

Good luck and hope that this ends up being base problem. Pulling engine to fix internal problems is difficult and very costly.



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