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Service Manual - anywhere besides Helm?

Post by C-dub » Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:35 am



I've checked the link in the manual section here off and on for several months and it seems like the manual has been unavailable the entire time. It is every time I check. At least for the 2017 model, 61MCA66. I called just a few minutes ago to try and order the one for only up to 2016, 61MCA65, to see if they had one of those and they don't. Is there anywhere else to get one? I've looked on ebay and there doesn't appear to be anything there either. Anyone that listed one now says they are unavailable.

On a side note, the person I spoke with at Helm seemed quite annoyed and unhappy to be there. The phone tree told me to identify whether I was a licensed dealer or not and I selected #2 for not a licensed dealer. It then routed me to a person that asked me the same question. I said I am not and that was why I selected #2. She said she had no idea what #2 was. I'm not getting a good feeling about this and yeah, I know I can be a butthead sometimes. Especially when people annoy me. She then asks me about year make and model and I tell her 2016 Honda Goldwing. Then she asks me which one. I said the manual is for all versions, but was intrigued, so I asked for clarification. She then asked if it was an 1100, 1200, 1500, or 1800. I had a feeling. SMH I said 1800 and then she told me they were out of owners manuals, to which I replied I didn't ask for an owners manual. In fact, I hadn't been asked which manual I wanted to buy and I hadn't told her yet.

It was a useless call and if I didn't want a service manual wouldn't ever deal with them again. This is the only place to get one from?


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Re: Service Manual - anywhere besides Helm?

Post by GoldWingrGreg » Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:39 pm

You can order them from a Honda dealer, but all manuals ultimately come from Helm. However, a Honda warehouse may have one, but probably not. I believe they've been on bo for a while, so all Honda warehouses are probably out of them.

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Re: Service Manual - anywhere besides Helm?

Post by Rambozo » Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:35 pm

You should have asked for the one for that elusive 2016 GL1100. They are extremely rare, you know. ;)

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Re: Service Manual - anywhere besides Helm?

Post by Andy Cote » Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:57 pm

Check this link:

http://www.service-shop-repair-manual.c ... anual-etm/

2012-2017 Honda Gold Wing GL1800 / GL1800A Part# 61MCA66 service shop repair manual + ETM

Your Price: $89.00
Brand: Honda
Condition: New
Weight: 7.00 LBS
Rating: ( 4 product reviews )
Availability: ships within 24 hours
DARKSIDE #1500
2018 Goldwing, basic black

Previously: GL1200 standard, GL1200 Interstate, GL1500 Goldwing, GL1500 Valkyrie Standard, 2000 Valkyrie Interstate, many other Hondas

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Re: Service Manual - anywhere besides Helm?

Post by C-dub » Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:47 pm

Andy Cote wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:57 pm
Check this link:

http://www.service-shop-repair-manual.c ... anual-etm/

2012-2017 Honda Gold Wing GL1800 / GL1800A Part# 61MCA66 service shop repair manual + ETM

Your Price: $89.00
Brand: Honda
Condition: New
Weight: 7.00 LBS
Rating: ( 4 product reviews )
Availability: ships within 24 hours
Awesome!!!

It's on it's way. Well, maybe tomorrow it's on it's way, but it's been paid for. They just gotta pack it up and ship it.

Thank you!
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Re: Service Manual - anywhere besides Helm?

Post by C-dub » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:09 pm

It arrived today! I feel a bit like Steve Martin in The Jerk when the new phones books arrived.

Let the reading begin. Although, I'm going to have to pace myself unlike when I first found this forum and spent several nights after work reading into the wee hours when I should have been sleeping.

Also, in its pristine condition I'm considering starting to scan it into multiple pdf files. Has anyone done or tried that yet?

Aww, just took the wrapping off and it has some kind of binding and no actual binder holes. I thought all the pages would be loose and they would have the 7 holes ready be place into a 7-ring binder if I had one.
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Re: Service Manual - anywhere besides Helm?

Post by C-dub » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:17 pm

Bump to the top.

My manual arrived without any actual holes to be able to put it in a 7-ring binder if I can find one. It is all bound together.

Has anyone taken theirs apart to punch holes in it to put it in a binder? Or to scan it into a pdf file. I'm wondering how difficult or easy it would be to get apart without damaging the pages.
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Re: Service Manual - anywhere besides Helm?

Post by Rambozo » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:54 pm

My Honda came in a binder, but I have a Kawasaki that was perfect bound (like a paperback book). I cut the binding off and drilled holes for a 3 ring binder. I had access to a print shop for the special tools, but I'm sure you could get the same done at a local print shop. Once the binding is cut off, you could also have it scanned with a sheet fed scanner. The pdf created will not be searchable, but there are a bunch of OCR software that can fix that. YMMV as to how well that works.

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Re: Service Manual - anywhere besides Helm?

Post by C-dub » Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:48 pm

Rambozo wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:54 pm
My Honda came in a binder, but I have a Kawasaki that was perfect bound (like a paperback book). I cut the binding off and drilled holes for a 3 ring binder. I had access to a print shop for the special tools, but I'm sure you could get the same done at a local print shop. Once the binding is cut off, you could also have it scanned with a sheet fed scanner. The pdf created will not be searchable, but there are a bunch of OCR software that can fix that. YMMV as to how well that works.
My scanner and software can create a searchable pdf file. My manual has the paperback like binder you describe. That thing is 3-4" thick. It looks like about 1/4" or more would have to be cut off to do the job. A print shop has that kind of tool? Like a band saw or what?

I wonder how big the entire manual would be in pdf format? Anyone?
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Re: Service Manual - anywhere besides Helm?

Post by Rambozo » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:01 pm

Yeah, you just have to cut off the glue. 1/8" or so will usually do it. A commercial paper cutter has a large knife type blade that slices down at an angle. They can go through 6 inches or more of paper, no problem. A paper drill has thin tubular bits that will make clean holes in thick stacks of paper, and the waste flows up through the hollow tube.
The 94 GL1500 service manual pdf is 35 MB. It all depends on quality settings and compression. You could make it 100 MB or 100 GB or more depending on how you do it.

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Re: Service Manual - anywhere besides Helm?

Post by C-dub » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:12 pm

Rambozo wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:01 pm
Yeah, you just have to cut off the glue. 1/8" or so will usually do it. A commercial paper cutter has a large knife type blade that slices down at an angle. They can go through 6 inches or more of paper, no problem. A paper drill has thin tubular bits that will make clean holes in thick stacks of paper, and the waste flows up through the hollow tube.
The 94 GL1500 service manual pdf is 35 MB. It all depends on quality settings and compression. You could make it 100 MB or 100 GB or more depending on how you do it.
Great! TYVM

I"ll have to find a suitable ring binder first. Then look for a print shop that can do this. That way I will at least have a binder to put it in before beginning the scanning process. If I get that far I will probably scan the sections into separate files first before attempting the entire manual. I'm pretty sure the entire thing would fit on my kindle. Then I could take it with me anywhere and could set it down next to me easily while working on it in the garage.
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Re: Service Manual - anywhere besides Helm?

Post by C-dub » Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:11 pm

I was in Office Depot yesterday checking out binders. I didn't see any 7-ring binders, but found plenty of "heavy duty" 3-ring ones. Since there are no holes in my manual yet I'll probably end up going with just a 3-ring binder. I also asked about getting the current binding cut off and they said they could do that and IIRC it sounded like it would only be about $1.50 to get it done.

They did say they could get it scanned into a searchable pdf file, but IIRC again, their cost to do so was more than the manual. Quite a bit more. So, I think I'll do that myself when it comes time. There are a couple heavy duty hole punches at work and I could probably get the whole thing done in 30 minutes or less. To do it nice and cleanly I would probably only do 20-30 pages at a time. I don't remember what Office Depot's cost to do that was, but haven't made up my mind if I want to get the hole punched before or after scanning yet.


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