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Looses fitting side coveres

Post by Whopper Stopper » Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:52 am



Is there an easy way to fix loose side covers? I bought replacement grommets, but when going down the road the cover covering the battery still pulls out from 3 holding points. I have read about the keepers to prevent loss, I first would like to tighten the grommet-pin fit.

Thanks for any help

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Re: Looses fitting side coveres

Post by Corkster52 » Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:28 am

Whopper Stopper wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:52 am
II first would like to tighten the grommet-pin fit.
I haven't heard of this issue after replacing the grommets. Since I keep ABS glue around all the time, if it were me, I would roughen up the bulbous part of the pins that go through the grommets with sandpaper, clean them with a rag moistened with rubbing alcohol and put a thin layer of ABS glue on each of them to increase the diameters. ABS glue works great, but the waiting time for it to completely cure can be a pain in the butt.

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Re: Looses fitting side coveres

Post by Happytrails » Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:33 am

Haven't heard of that either. After I replaced them on my bike the grommets are almost too tight. I did install the side cover keepers and they would be great but if mine were loose I guess. You wouldnt lose the cover but it will still be dangling and bounching around from the wind until you manage to pull over. I've never had it happen so I dont honestly know but I'm just guessing about that. I'm kind of liking the suggestion of putting some abs cement on the pins to build them up a bit. Makes sense.
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Re: Looses fitting side coveres

Post by Whopper Stopper » Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:59 am

The replacement grommets came from Show Chrome. There were I think 2-3 different shapes. Possibly I should have used a different grommet?

Just thought I should ask before building the pins up.


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Re: Looses fitting side coveres

Post by Happytrails » Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:08 pm

Whopper Stopper wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:59 am
The replacement grommets came from Show Chrome. There were I think 2-3 different shapes. Possibly I should have used a different grommet?

Just thought I should ask before building the pins up.


WS
Can't really say about that. Show Chrome usually has very good stuff. Would hate to see you buy OEM's only to find out its the same thing. The grommets I got were OEM, they weren't much money and at the time I was ordering a lot of other OEM parts so it made sense just to get em. Maybe you can order enough to do 1 side cover that way your not out much money. Did a little checking with Partzilla and looks like it would cost $7.28 for the 3 grommets for 1 side cover and $7.95 estimated shipping/handling so just over $15 bucks to try 1 side cover to see if it helps. At 2x-3x the cost of the Show Chrome but if they solve your problem it would be worth it. The ones I replaced about 6yrs ago and they are still about as tight as when I first replaced them. So I kind of wasted money on the panel keepers.
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Re: Looses fitting side coveres

Post by bluthundr31 » Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:46 pm

, , JUST A THOUGHT, , ,

Remove the grommets from the panel on the OTHER side and put them in the side that's loose and see if they fit better. If they DO, ,then you have the wrong size grommets on the side that's loose. Go through the other grommets that you've replaced and match the "shape" of the GOOD grommets with the new replacement grommets. I'd bet you have put the wrong size in another hole by accident.

Last option would be order new OEM grommets.

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Re: Looses fitting side coveres

Post by Whopper Stopper » Fri Aug 09, 2019 3:19 pm

I appreciate the tips. I will tinker with it tomorrow and see if I can narrow that problem down.

Thanks

WS

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Re: Looses fitting side coveres

Post by CrystalPistol » Fri Aug 09, 2019 3:39 pm

I added teathers, I pull them tight and they don't show. I highlighted with yellow to show where they are. One end is secured to frame at swing arm area, other end has loop and hooks to small bungie hidden after I pull slack through. I left enough slack to allow me to lay in seat if need be while servicing. With top lip under seat edge, lower side teathered, no way they can even be pulled off at rubbers.


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Re: Looses fitting side coveres

Post by Whopper Stopper » Fri Aug 09, 2019 3:47 pm

CP Thanks for the idea, that gives me one other option.

By the way how much do you want for your front fender? Lol You have the same color as I do on my 99 that the deer took care of. I didn't realize how expensive some parts are and how scarce some parts are.

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Re: Looses fitting side coveres

Post by Charlie1Horse » Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:59 pm

Tie a medium size cable tie through the hole on the cover before you insert the grommet. Pull it up tight and that should take up some of the size. If it still is a bit loose just wrap the tie through two times before tying it together.
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Re: Looses fitting side coveres

Post by Wing--Man » Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:56 pm

Whopper Stopper wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:52 am
Is there an easy way to fix loose side covers? I bought replacement grommets, but when going down the road the cover covering the battery still pulls out from 3 holding points. I have read about the keepers to prevent loss, I first would like to tighten the grommet-pin fit.
Thanks for any help
WS
Mix some 2 part epoxy (5 minute) dip pin(s) and let setup.
Test fit, dip again if needed.

If it is too tight, shave them with sandpaper to fit.

Tho finish sanding to a near gloss. The rough plastic will eat the rubber and you will be back to square 1.

Shrink tubing may work also, depending on its wall thickness.

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Re: Looses fitting side coveres

Post by joeincalif » Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:46 am

Before you start gluing the side covers I would try bluthunder31 said, switch the grommets with the other side. Probably you have the wrong ones.
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Re: Looses fitting side coveres

Post by Corkster52 » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:45 pm

joeincalif wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:46 am
Before you start gluing the side covers I would try bluthunder31 said, switch the grommets with the other side. Probably you have the wrong ones.
I agree. Best to check that first.

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Post by Whopper Stopper » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:36 pm

Thanks to everyone that has added comment.

I was able to find the rest of the grommets complete with packaging. I remember buying them at a local Honda shop and as I said they were from Show Chrome.
I then went to the Show Chrome site and found them. When I entered my bike, 99 1500 Goldwing SE, a box popped up saying they would not fit my bike. Looking at other sites for the 1500 SE they sell the same Show Chrome grommets that I bought, now I am even more confused Lol

I had never checked the site being the Honda shop carried them and knew what I rode. Now the question is where can I get the right ones if such a thing exists?
I am going to try a different dealer in the Twin Cities Monday and see what they say.

WS

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Re: Looses fitting side coveres

Post by MikeB » Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:46 pm



There is a total of eight grommets holding the two side covers on. If you replace them all with OEM grommets from Honda, it will cost just under $30.

#1 - 83551-MA6-000 - $2.25 each from Honda. $2.25 x 4 = $9.00
#2 - 83551-300-000 - $5.85 each from Honda. $5.85 x 2 = $11.70
#4 - 83601-MN5-000 - $2.18 each from Honda. $2.18 x 2 = $4.36

The show Chrome Grommets look good but they are not made exactly right. The three sizes and styles of grommets are a little different among the lot.
The two grommets that go into the saddlebag ears are a little different than the ones that are in the show chrome package.
I recently replaced all of my grommets on my 1998 Aspencade. This was the first replacement since it was new. The panels have never come off un-commanded in 180,000 + miles.

I have found that if you have a belly pan on your bike, the possibility of the panels blowing out are lessened. And yes, I have always had a belly pan on my bike.
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Re: Looses fitting side coveres

Post by Whopper Stopper » Sun Aug 11, 2019 8:33 am

Wow! You people are amazing. Thanks for the information.

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Re: Looses fitting side coveres

Post by joeincalif » Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:28 am

As MikeB has posted, $30 is a lot cheaper than buying a new side cover. Wingstuff.com has them also
https://wingstuff.com/shop/grommets_fasteners


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