It just died sitting at a stop light


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It just died sitting at a stop light

Post by samwing1500 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:18 pm



I was sitting at a stop light and had to sit through three left turn lights, and sitting there
with my food on the brake (trike) and also had the running lights on. All of sudden
it just turnd off exactly like I had turned off the key. I tried a couple of things and
still nothing. So I pushed it off to the side into a parking lot, tried a couple times
and then one more time I turned on the key and all the lights came on it cranked
instantly, no low battery. I checked the voltage when I got home and it good and
swings with the load to 13.9 and on to 14.2 then will go back to 13.8-9. No indication
of low battery or not charging at all. It is very hot and I did sit there for a long time with
a lot of lights on. Is there a thermal fuse or a re-setting fuse some where or possibly
a relay failed somewhere. No more trouble after that. Any ideas? Never has done this before.
Hope it never does it again.
Sam


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Re: It just died sitting at a stop light

Post by ct1500 » Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:57 pm

To the right of battery is starter relay A, attached to it is a 30A fuse and holder. Inspect it for burning/heat giving it and the wiring a wiggle test for repeat symptoms.
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Re: It just died sitting at a stop light

Post by AZgl1800 » Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:18 pm

The most important gauge you can have on a bike is a Voltmeter.

I too got caught at a very long left turn signal light, with a string of cars....
my problem was needing to make 2 left turns immediately,
1: from a parking lot thru a light to major cross street
2: from the cross street to a major US-169 highway

and lots of cars forcing me to wait multiple left turn signals.

had the trailer with me, and forgot to keep the engine rev'd up so the alternator would keep up with lighting load. ( no LEDs on it at the time )

battery got low enough, that the engine just shut off.
I realized what happened, left the key off until the light turned green again, restarted the engine and kept it rev'd up enough to generate power....
slipped clutch to move forward, finally 2 more lights later on my way.

In my case, I have a voltmeter, but it is blocked by my knee, and unless I purposely look at it, it don't do me any good. when the engine quit, I looked at it immediately, and turned the key off so the battery could recover a tiny bit. that OFF period allowed the battery to recover enough to restart the engine later.
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Re: It just died sitting at a stop light

Post by bluthundr31 » Sun Sep 29, 2019 2:54 am

Checking the wiring down by the battery/fuse area is a good place to start.

My thoughts are more along the lines of the "pressure build-up" in the gas tank usually caused by a clogged gas cap not "venting" as needed.
Was the weather fairly warm?? Do you hear a "whoosh" when you remove the gas cap to refuel?

It would NOT be uncommon for the gas cap to have some gunk/crud build up with a 20 year old bike. If the gas cap doesn't vent properly, as the tank gets 3/8 to 1/4 full after being filled up, there is a major pressure difference between outside atmosphere and the gasoline in the sealed tank. The fuel pump has a difficult time sucking out the gas into the carbs and your engine dies (for no reason). An "overnight" soaking in Seafoam should resolve the issue (usually) and blow out the gas cap with an air compressor.

Even though it seems that your battery is in good condition, do as AZgl1800 (John) suggests, GET A VOLTMETER ON THAT TRIKE ASAP. Mother Honda did not do us any favors by not putting one on from the factory, , ,maybe they thought these beasts wouldn't last 35-50 years, , , they were wrong. These darn beasts will probably outlive all of us, , ,hahaha

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Re: It just died sitting at a stop light

Post by samwing1500 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:49 am

Thanks ct1500, bluthundr31, AZgl1800,

All good suggestions. Appreciate them. I did notice that after it sat for a couple
minutes, I turned all the extra lights, things, off, and I turned it back on, it started
up fine and I came on home. At home I did noticed that all the presets on the radio
were at default and the clock was at some time other than correct. Leading me to
think that the battery just reached a point to low to power and it all went down.
Might be the battery but I just bought the new battery about two months ago. I am
installing a volt meter on it this week, in an easy to see place. Thanks again.
I will be more mindful of sitting that long at idle from now on. :)
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Re: It just died sitting at a stop light

Post by 2003Cobra » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:46 pm

If you just bought the battery 2 months ago I think I would check all my connections to make sure they are good and tight. Also check ground where it grounds to the frame for corrosion and ensure it is tight as well.

I agree a voltmeter would be an excellent upgrade.
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Re: It just died sitting at a stop light

Post by samwing1500 » Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:53 am

Hello everyone,
Had the same thing happen again. When it happens its just like
you lifted off the battery connection and lost all power.
Radio presets also back to default. No lights no nothing.
Turned the key on/off a couple times, no lights no nothing.
Havent put that volt meter on yet but ready to.
Set for three minutes, turned it back on and all ready to
go. Fired up and came on home. Pulled off the battery cover
and pulled the 30 amp main by the battery and wiggled all the
connections and replaced the fuse with a new one. We will see
what happens. Having new timing belts, tensioners and springs
put in next week. This winter I am going to take it apart and
replace the coolant temp sensor on the right intake to see what
effect that has on the small surging at idle that I notice. Thanks
for the suggestions and input if there is more, I am open to all
comments.
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Re: It just died sitting at a stop light

Post by 1goldwingnut » Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:09 pm

Unbolt clean and rebolt the battery to main fuse connector unbolt and rebolt the main fuse to fuse block connector . make sure you clean them good and then bolted back on worth a try

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Re: It just died sitting at a stop light

Post by samwing1500 » Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:17 am

Ok on unbolt and re tighten. I will go for that next. Hoping that the replacing of the 30 amp main
and wiggling and moving the three connectors on the back of the fuse holders to get a little cleaner
connection will eliminate it. It loses all ALL power to everything it appears but in two or three
minutes it all back and ready to start. Battery is still plenty hot enough to start up the engine.
Will ride it a while after each "fix" to see results. It has only happened those two (actually three) times
so I might have to ride it 50,000 miles to make sure. :D
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Re: It just died sitting at a stop light

Post by 1goldwingnut » Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:24 am

Connections anywhere can overheat if dirty and when they cool down the connection seems good again.



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