1983 Exhaust help


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johnny42
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1983 Exhaust help

Post by johnny42 » Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:35 pm



You guys helped with the exhaust removal. Thanks!!

I was going to work on removing the loose chrome and rust, then painting. Once I got the pipe off, rust was the least of my problems.

The photos show the pipe has rusted out in one spot and the packing material for the baffle is right there, exposed! The other photo is the rust on the other side.

I want to retain this original pipe if possible. I have these thoughts......

1) remove the loose chrome, use a rust converter on the rust and wrap some sort of metal around the entire section and secure with stainless steel clamps. I think there's enough steel at either end of the final section of pipe to allow clamps. I'm hoping this will hold until I am no longer able to ride. (I'm 64 and bought this bike new).

2) remove the loose chrome, use a rust converter on the rust and apply a layer of JB Weld (Hi-Heat) then paint. I'm not overly concerned with appearance.

Looking for advice or suggestions on a remedy where I get to keep these pipes.
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Re: 1983 Exhaust help

Post by indianakid » Mon Nov 18, 2019 6:10 pm

call this guy, doesn't look too far from you and see if he has anything better to work with. your exhaust is pretty far gone!

https://buffalo.craigslist.org/mpo/d/no ... 03700.html

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Re: 1983 Exhaust help

Post by Joneszy » Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:24 pm

Surely you jest! I am 73 not 64 but would never think that my exhaust (if it looked remotely like the one one your bike) would last till I was "done". Your exhaust system is shot so either fix it properly or don't. Please don't come on here asking if JB weld will fix your exhausted exhaust system. It won't. Sorry to be a downer but either do it right or stop riding. Just my opinion mind you.

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Re: 1983 Exhaust help

Post by johnny42 » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:40 pm

>so either fix it properly or don't<

I've been fortunate in that in my 46 years of riding and owning motorbikes I've never had to undertake something like this, that's why I'm reaching out to those that might have come across this.

When you say fix it properly, do you mean replace it? If you don't mean that, I was hoping to get some ideas.

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Re: 1983 Exhaust help

Post by Rambozo » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:58 pm

Replacing them is the obvious solution. You can read here about lots of guys using Harley pipes on old Wings as there are tons of almost new take offs, since I think most Harley riders are deaf and need louder pipes to be sure their bikes are running or something.
However, if you want to repair rather than replace, you can do that. It will probably cost a lot more, though. The way I would go about it would be to cut away all the rust and TIG weld in stainless tubing sections to repair the missing areas. Stainless will weld fine to carbon steel, and you can then just shine up the stainless, so you don't need to re-chrome everything.

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Re: 1983 Exhaust help

Post by Joneszy » Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:03 pm

johnny42 wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:40 pm
>so either fix it properly or don't<

I've been fortunate in that in my 46 years of riding and owning motorbikes I've never had to undertake something like this, that's why I'm reaching out to those that might have come across this.

When you say fix it properly, do you mean replace it? If you don't mean that, I was hoping to get some ideas.
My apologies for being so rough in my original comment. I am quite anal about the condition of my bikes and sometimes am too critical about those who merely want it to be OK. That being said I gave some more thought about your post and want to say that:
-I agree with Rambozo that you may be able to take your mufflers to a shop and have them patched but still say that JB Weld or clamps are not the solution to your problem. TIG welding patched of SS onto the exterior may get you by for a while but the pictures indicate there is some serious deterioration in your pipes so that may be a short term relatively expensive proposition.
-I agree with his comments about looking into installing Harley (take off) slip-ons if your headers are in good condition. I have a set of those from a 2001 Harley Sportster, taken off when new, ready to go on my 78 Gl1000. Just have to fab some mounting brackets. Many folks have done this as used oem mufflers in good condition are hard to find (they are all old) and very good ones if found are very expensive. All the reviews indicate that the folks who use Harley take offs are pleased with the results. There is a DIY on this site telling about Harley muffler install at:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4874
Shop on Ebay or Craigs List. There are are ton of Harley Pipes taken off when almost new as Harley mufflers were relatively quiet from the factory and many people who buy Harleys wanted a louder custom sound. You should be able to find an excellent set for $60 to $100. I advise you to look for earlier late 90's to early 2001 or so mufflers as they did not have a crossover between them so mounting is easier.
-There are other solutions like buying Jardine slip-ons (a friend has these and they seem to work ok). You can look at custom exhaust systems. Two that come to mind are Delkevic (stainless steel and available on Amazon) & other retailers or Mac motorcycle exhausts. Both of these are expensive ie. Delkevic will run you about $650 but include headers, clamps, mounts etc.) If the Harley pipes don't meet my approval when I install them on my 78 I will be going to these.
In any event good luck in your quest . One final shot though, I still think that a bike you bought new 36 yrs ago deserves to be fixed properly not just patched, providing that the cost can be fit into your budget.
Best to you and my apology is sincere

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Re: 1983 Exhaust help

Post by newday777 » Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:34 am

So why not replace the exhaust??? Those are toasted. Yes you can temporarily patch them but you won't be stopping the rust from spreading. You will need to weld not jbweld as the outer skin is intrigual to the mount structure of the exhaust system.

You can find a stock exhaust system.

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Re: 1983 Exhaust help

Post by newday777 » Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:57 pm

This might have good exhaust on it. He is parting it out. Give him a call.

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/m ... 19695.html

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Re: 1983 Exhaust help

Post by johnny42 » Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:57 pm

Thanks for the link. But that looks like an '82. The crossover under the bike is not in the right place compared to an '83. The crossover would be in the way of the center-stand.

But thanks for thinking of me!

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1975 CB750 K5 Planet Blue 7,800 miles

1976 CB750 K6 Anterris Red 25,000 miles

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1999A Restored and sold at 19,000 miles

1999SE Totaled by cager at 105,000 miles

Re: 1983 Exhaust help

Post by newday777 » Fri Nov 22, 2019 4:39 pm

Actually 82 and 83 are the same exhaust

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Re: 1983 Exhaust help

Post by Joneszy » Fri Nov 22, 2019 7:21 pm

As are 80, 81, 82 and 83 same exhaust. Refer to fiche on whatever site you choose to deal with. Partzilla, HondaPartsNation etc. These systems are no longer available but the parts numbers are readily available.

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Re: 1983 Exhaust help

Post by johnny42 » Sat Nov 23, 2019 12:53 am

Why didn't I think of that?

I'm researching my situation. I found one forum entry where they said the crossover didn't match exactly on the '83 but they used flexi pipe to connect.

I've been reading about using a Sportster exhaust on the Wing. Seems like the noise might be a factor. Plus most of the posts show them on naked wings where the saddlebags aren't an issue. Also, I'd say more than 80% of the posters have and know how to weld. I don't.

Next, I'll research using other HD mufflers like the Road Glide??, etc.

Most of the posts don't explain how they attach the rear portion of the muffler to the frame. They just say they make a bracket or weld something.

I'll keep looking and I do appreciate the suggestions.



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