Torque oil filter?


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Torque oil filter?

Post by stover » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:49 pm



Just picked up a 2001 GL1800. Very nice bike. Torquing an oil filter is new to me. What do you experienced GL1800 riders do? Torque to 19 ft lbs or just tighten 1/2 to 3/4 turns?

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Re: Torque oil filter?

Post by AZgl1800 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:58 pm

no matter if a bike, or a car/truck.

I have used the same method over time, and so far, it seems to do the job.

Hand tighten until the filter gets snug, then twist it about 1/2 turn more.

Once the oil is replaced, start the engine up, and look for leaks.
if none, Job 1 done right.

Over the years, I have found filters put on by someone other than myself, that required I drive a screwdriver thru the case and tear things up trying to get the filter off. That is Job 1, done WRONG.

The most critical thing IMO, is making sure none of the old gasket material is left on the block.
Double gaskets make for a leaking oil filter.
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Re: Torque oil filter?

Post by WingAdmin » Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:35 pm

For 30+ years I've torqued oil filters using the highly-accurate "armstrong" method: as tight as feels right by hand. No mechanical torquing or tools - hand tightening only.

And yes, make SURE the old gasket/seal doesn't stick to the block!

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Re: Torque oil filter?

Post by stover » Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:52 pm

Thanks AZgl1800 & wingadmin - easy enough. BTW I learned about old oil filter gasket material left on engine years ago. Makes quite a mess when you start engine.

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Post by Big Bob » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:05 am

I like the "Armstrong " term for the torque spec on the oil filter. That's how I do it and will continue to as long as I can on my wing!

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Post by keithg64 » Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:02 pm

And speaking of oil filters, do you guys pre- oil the filter ? Do you fill with oil, let it soak into the filter media and fill again. I have done this over the years. So that the first start up there is no oil starvation.
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Post by AZgl1800 » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:32 pm

keithg64 wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:02 pm
And speaking of oil filters, do you guys pre- oil the filter ? Do you fill with oil, let it soak into the filter media and fill again. I have done this over the years. So that the first start up there is no oil starvation.
I used to, but the time for the oil pump to fill the filter, is so short, that it makes no difference at all.
not worth the trouble, and surely not worth the effort to keep from spilling oil on the floor.
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Post by WingAdmin » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:14 pm

keithg64 wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:02 pm
And speaking of oil filters, do you guys pre- oil the filter ? Do you fill with oil, let it soak into the filter media and fill again. I have done this over the years. So that the first start up there is no oil starvation.
I don't bother. You could always just crank the engine without starting it. That will move the engine parts, pump oil, but without the high pressures and stress of combustion power strokes against the smooth crank bearings.

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Re: Torque oil filter?

Post by cihilb » Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:43 am

Hold the throttle wide open while cranking. Do this two or three times for about 5 seconds each time. The engine will NOT start as long as the throttle is wide open. Just keep cranking 5 seconds at a time until the oil light goes out. Your filter is now full.

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Re: Torque oil filter?

Post by mterraci » Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:26 am

I've pre-filled my oil filter the last 2 times. 1st time went great, last time I made a mess out of it.
Certainly not hurting anything if you do it. Like posted above, can also crank the engine and achieve the same result.

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Re: Torque oil filter?

Post by CrystalPistol » Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:45 pm

I tighten 1/2 to 3/4 turn past first contact after oiling the gasket. I may fill before if the oil isn't gonna poor out. I may only half fill if angled.

To remove, I either use a metal strap wrench or my web strap wrench which uses a 3/8 drive … or my filter pliars. I have never needed to drive a screw driver through one, but I am familiar with the tactic if needed (having seen it done).

All depends on accessibility, angle, temps.


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