Starter Solenoid 83 GL1100


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Starter Solenoid 83 GL1100

Post by lytol5385 » Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:30 pm



I've done a lot of work on my newly acquired 83 Goldwing Aspencade, but am having electrical issues that are frustrating me. I have replaced the starter and solenoid, but when I plug the four prong wire harness in the 30 amp fuse kept blowing out. I took the harness apart, plugged each wire in separately, and discovered it is specifically the red and white wire that is shorting. The other three wires are fine when I plug each in. What does this wire go to and how can I fix it? Thanks in advance for you help.



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Re: Starter Solenoid 83 GL1100

Post by dingdong » Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:55 am

Look in the manuals section for color wiring diagram for 83 1100. The red white wire connects directly to the rectifier regulator.

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Re: Starter Solenoid 83 GL1100

Post by lytol5385 » Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:18 am

Thanks dingdong. I appreciate the information. I am hoping someone might be able to tell me why that particular wire is shorting my 30 amp fuse every time it is plugged in. I have a new rectifier to install, but was hoping to understand why it is shorting before I install the new one and find out that isn't the problem and perhaps burn out the new rectifier and the main fuse again.

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Re: Starter Solenoid 83 GL1100

Post by winguyjo » Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:22 pm

are you using a honda solenoid or one of those cheap chinese ones off ebay ? my memory is bad, but i am pretty sure that i read somewhere that the cheapies have the terminals in the wrong locations.

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Re: Starter Solenoid 83 GL1100

Post by lytol5385 » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:26 pm

No Chinesium here. I am using a Honda solenoid. I read the same thing about the cheap ones. Aside from that, as I state in a previous post. I connected each of the wires in the four-pronged harness separately so I could find out which wire was shorting. All the wires are fine with the exception of the red/white wire which goes to the rectifier. What I wanted to know before I replace the rectifier is if there is something else connected either between the solenoid and rectifier or something beyond the rectifier that could also be shorting that particular wire. I don't mind frying fuses, they are cheap, parts like a rectifier I'd rather not fry if I can avoid it.

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Re: Starter Solenoid 83 GL1100

Post by julimike54 » Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:18 pm

Remove the red/white wire from the regulator and check it for short/ground
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Re: Starter Solenoid 83 GL1100

Post by lytol5385 » Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:47 pm

Thanks julimike54. The red/white wire is inside the main wiring harness which contains several wires all bundled together. I do not see any tears in that wrapped bundle of wires. I can only assume that if there were an interruption in that one wire among a bundle of wires other wires would be affected as well, wouldn't they? How about the ignition switch or ignition coils could they be shorting that particular wire. I have read the wiring diagram, unfortunately I am not an electrical engineer. Why do none of these companies that create these manuals create exploded diagrams that show these items as they actually look within the bike? I remember back a couple of decades when I could pick up a Chilton manual and with it completely take a car apart and put it back together, not so with this motorcycle. I would give anything to be having a mechanical problem rather than this electrical one. Mechanical problems are easy, you see something worn and broken, replace it and boom you're working again, this electrical problem is just frustrating because nothing is clear cut and provides a clean diagnosis and clear solution.

Still hoping for someone to be able to tell me what are the possible causes for the red/white wire in the starter solenoid to short out. If I had a short list of potential problems I could then address each one until I find the problem and repair or replace it.

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Re: Starter Solenoid 83 GL1100

Post by julimike54 » Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:57 am

Looking at this diagram, the red/white only goes to regulator

http://classicgoldwings.com/forum/galle ... e_id=13542

By clicking on the pic you can get it to a full size, easier to read

This page shows part of the wiring system, appears that the red and the red/white are tied together, Therefore you'd need to follow both to find the short/ground

http://classicgoldwings.com/forum/galle ... e_id=11730


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