Painting the 1500


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Re: Painting the 1500

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Hope you’re sitting down. The right side piece was $75.00 CDN but is a colour match. Next time I will get those inexpensive chrome ones, remove the chrome and paint to suit. Good idea the tape, even a small piece would help.


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Re: Painting the 1500

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Side cover emblems came in. Will be getting to these soon. Have to put the 1500 on hold for a week or so because I have committed my '85 1200 Limited Edition to a YouTube video that is being made by RyanF9 of Fortnine in Montreal. He is doing a video on the value of older bikes that are coming on the market because some of us older gents are getting out of motorcycling. My late friend's son found his post on a FB video. Ryan was looking for an older GW in the Vancouver, BC area so I threw my hat in the ring - the 1500 was apparently too new, but not the '85 and he accepted. Hadn't planned on having it on the road so soon, but after he accepted I got on cleaning/polishing and getting it out of mothballs. Have spent the last two days getting it ready for next week. He is going to come over next week and do what he does. I will loan him the bike, but going along as a spectator. Going to be interesting and fun. Now to find an insurance company open for business, need to insure and get new stickers for the bike.
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Re: Painting the 1500

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Have attached the emblems to the side panels, look very nice:


The left side wing accent piece is here and installed as per recommendation from WingAdmin, using a dab of double sided tape.

Parts from CA have been in Victoria for over a week with UPS. Phoned UPS on Friday and was given the company response about C-19, backlogs, and such; however, when it wants money it is right on top of the issue. Made my point to the messenger that I have paid for the service now get me my package. Will be on it again tomorrow.

Took some time today to start on the lazy susan for upcoming painting - proof of concept. Got the base done. Knew what I wanted to do, have a quick change aspect for jigs, so I got some scrap ply and started to play with a way to use quick change jigs. In the picture you can see the temp brackets I installed to hold the jigs that I will make:


Made a temp jig of 3/8 ply base - 8 inch by 8 inch - and a 2X4 stem:


The jig when installed has the 2X4 over the centre of the Lazy Susan:




Tested this with the lid from my 1200 saddlebag:




Spun the lid and all was good. The 2X4 stem that the part/piece will be perched on can be any length and will be customized to suit. Thinking better to spin the part/piece then to walk around it.

With quick change jigs can paint one piece, remove to waiting area, install another, paint, and repeat. Since flash times are approximately 15 or so minutes, I'm estimating that having 6 pieces on jigs ready to go will be optimum. By the time the last piece is done will be time to start on the first piece again.

I learned from the initial painting that two many parts take up a lot of room and managing a lot of parts/pieces is a challenge. Less chance of dragging the air hose over the fresh paint.

The spray booth area can be enlarged or reduced to suit the painting being done. I have toyed with the idea to do two Lazy Susans to speed up the painting process. Will think about this.
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Re: Painting the 1500

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Rednaxs60 wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 10:12 pm
Have attached the emblems to the side panels, look very nice:Side Panel Emblems.jpgThe left side wing accent piece is here and installed as per recommendation from WingAdmin, using a dab of double sided tape.

Parts from CA have been in Victoria for over a week with UPS. Phoned UPS on Friday and was given the company response about C-19, backlogs, and such; however, when it wants money it is right on top of the issue. Made my point to the messenger that I have paid for the service now get me my package. Will be on it again tomorrow.

Took some time today to start on the lazy susan for upcoming painting - proof of concept. Got the base done. Knew what I wanted to do, have a quick change aspect for jigs, so I got some scrap ply and started to play with a way to use quick change jigs. In the picture you can see the temp brackets I installed to hold the jigs that I will make:Lazy Susan.jpgMade a temp jig of 3/8 ply base - 8 inch by 8 inch - and a 2X4 stem:Lazy Susan Jig.jpgThe jig when installed has the 2X4 over the centre of the Lazy Susan:Lazy Susan and Lazy Susan Jig.jpgLazy Susan and Lazy Susan Jig -2.jpgTested this with the lid from my 1200 saddlebag:Lazy Susan Jig with test piece.jpgTest Piece on Lazy Susan.jpgSpun the lid and all was good. The 2X4 stem that the part/piece will be perched on can be any length and will be customized to suit. Thinking better to spin the part/piece then to walk around it.

Great looking stuff Ernest

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bellboy40 wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:03 pm
You might want to adhere a piece of ABS under where those bolts go through the trunk lid to hold that luggage rack on. That will give it a lot more support and resistance to cracking in the future.
Mine were so bad that I was heading down the path of putting 3" doublers on the inside of the lid and 2" polished stainless steel washers (made from flat bar and took me forever!) and rubber on the outside. Luckily, I found a nice looking lid on Ebay, so those repairs are put off for now. I will probably strip all of the paint off, redo the crack repairs and, paint it and sell it.



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My trunk lid was reinforced, but only the rear luggage rack holes:


I took a piece of 1/8th inch ABS sheet, cut 2 pieces for the front bolt holes, heated the abs and formed it to the trunk lid, sanded the area, applied ABS glue and secured the ABS pieces. Drilled holes for the bolts and all should be good. Easy fix.
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Final version of the turntable. It will take an 8X8 base. This will be good enough for last bit of painting for the 1500. Will change think about adapting it so a 12X12 inch base can be used and have an 8X8 base quick change insert. Failing an idea, will make a second turntable. Here are the final pics:




Going to use corrugated plastic for the rear and side walls of the spray booth, Coroplast is one trade name. Lightweight, easy to store.

Found a video about setting up a spray gun for spraying distance. Good information, going to try this concept, wall of air test, over the next week. Here's the link:

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Re: Painting the 1500

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Have progressed the next phase of the 1500 painting. Have the parts available, 10 will be done. There are a few dings/gouges, but once painted won't notice or see. Going to clean, sand and then use 2K epoxy primer:

Picked up this morning, last one in stock - more coming
Picked up this morning, last one in stock - more coming

Decided the turntable needed a stop bolt:

Needed to keep the turntable from turning while spraying
Needed to keep the turntable from turning while spraying

Tested one of the new pieces for height and securing to the turntable jig:

Did a test to ensure I could secure the pieces, spin test went well
Did a test to ensure I could secure the pieces, spin test went well


Duct tape makes sure nothing moves
Duct tape makes sure nothing moves

Will have all the pieces on individual jigs to expedite the painting process. This week coming, it's clean and prep the pieces for epoxy primer, and work on the spray booth.
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Short update. Have received the original heat protectors and front lower cowling. Have mentioned these will be painted a light silver metallic, have already picked out the colour. Spent the afternoon cleaning the parts, and have one ready for priming. Intend to use Rustoleum primer on the entire panel - front/back. Looked at the Rustoleum primer product(s) on line and apparently if you prime but do not top coat within one hour you have to let sit for 48 hours for the primer to cure and harden. This suits me fine as I will use a Rustoleum light silver colour on the back of the parts.I will use the 2K epoxy primer on the front side of each piece, then paint. Have given myself 3 weeks to complete this painting, need time to ride and such.

My 1200 is part of the equation. I have struggled with the rough idle on cold starts, and the unpleasant smell. Will be checking the hydraulic valve adjustment as this can affect the idle when cold. To address the smell, I will be rebuilding the engine sooner than later, probably starting in July. If the valves are shimmed correctly, the heads were refurbished last year, I will continue to pull the engine - a lot of the pieces needed to remove the engine will already be off. If I have to shim any of the valves, will put back together to test, then start to disassemble the bike for engine removal. This will be the topic of another thread.

This year should be known as "The Year of Projects". Get everything done before next year riding season.
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Getting the new parts cleaned and prepped. Think I have them clean, but when dry and a second look, a few spots always come up. The parts are green and I will be changing the colour to a light silver. Want to have the backside a silverish colour so I sanded, cleaned and used Rustoleum paint and primer aluminum colour. It will, I hope provide a good base for the new colour. I did find out that if the Rustoleum paint has not bonded with the original finish/base, rubbing alcohol will remove it. Will be letting the pieces cure/harden for at least 48 hours before I do anything else to the pieces. Should have all the pieces prepped to the Rustoleum base coat level. Once the Rustoleum has cured and hardened and I'm happy with the base product, a wet sand then the epoxy primer, then paint. This pic is of two pieces where the colour has been changed:


I did notice that if there are any imperfections, these really show up with a lighter colour.
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Just got done reading this thread, great work! I had to chuckle a little about those little color matched screw covers only available from Honda, I also felt the sting when I purchased a set of these to replace the chrome ones that were on mine. The color matched ones look so much better though, it is worth it. Barely haha.
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Thanks for reading. Those little pieces were an ouch, but do finish off the side wing install. Interesting that the left side is quite a bit cheaper than the right - go figure. Did put a small piece of double sided tape on these to help keep these pieces firmly in place.

Looking forward to getting the last pieces done and installed. Looking forward to applying what I learned from this one to my '85 Limited Edition. A fresh coat of paint on it should make for a good looker.
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Have made some progress in getting to the finish line on this project. Have been discussing the project with my paint guy, should have the silver metal flake on Thursday. He keeps running out of the base paint stock.

Used a grey scrubby on the parts/pieces this afternoon and applied the epoxy primer. It's like a primer filler as well:


The lower front cowling has turned out pretty good, was red and had damage as well, but I did some work and fixed it not too bad. Original as received:


Primed and repaired in front of spray booth fan unit:


The fan unit is too keep the overspray contained. This was a good test. You can see in the pic how the fan is drawing the overspray into the furnace filter. There was no spray getting through to the fan. This is the fan in the box after I made it. A few more tweaks and all should be well:


Hoping to get this finished by end of upcoming weekend, or at least end next week. Then the 1200 gets all the attention, engine is ready for painting.

Used a 2K epoxy primer:


. Lots of overspray, so just barely made 2 applications on the parts/pieces. Could be me, but would expect a bit more coverage. The spray fan of the nozzle is adjustable, but found this out after I did the applications. Might pick up a second one on Thursday and give one more dusting, shouldn't have to - will give it a light sanding tomorrow and make a determination.


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