Wiring fiasco: behold the chaos! (help!)


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Wiring fiasco: behold the chaos! (help!)

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So, bit of history, I bought this '83 Aspencade from a guy on Craigslist with a sob story about how it belonged to his deceased wife, had a wiring issue that surfaced after he'd repainted it, ran fine beforehand... hated tracking gremlins and had too much emotional baggage, yadda yadda. Truth told, it's got a blown head gasket, leaked all the coolant out the right exhaust, leaking oil out the water pump, and a whole host of other odds and ends that means it was totally NOT OK when he parked it. I've been sitting on it a few years, tinkered here and there, tried selling it twice, and now I've finally committed to to bringing it back to life. Oh, BTW, his wiring gremlin was that the pulse generator wasn't plugged up. :roll:

Anyway, this post has nothing to do with all that.

While trying to track down an issue with the starter, I ran across some posts about the "3 yellow wires". I decided I'd better take a look at mine.

But I didn't have any. :shock:

What I have is a massive bundle of electrical tape, and some bizarre black box crammed behind the battery. I've been wondering about that box, and after discovering the missing yellow wires, I decided to do some exploratory surgery. The pics below are what I found. Holy Moly, what a wreck. I want to set this thing back to factory default, but I have NO idea what I'm looking at here. Any guidance from you Goldwing gurus would be much appreciated.... what is going on here???
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never worked on an 1100, but that obviously is pure junk.

I would start removing all of the wires that have crimp connectors on them and then trace the OEM wiring back into the harness and find the OEM wire color.

It will be a miracle is the Stator is still good.
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Re: Wiring fiasco: behold the chaos! (help!)

Post by Wilcoy02 »

:D :D HeavyArmor Welcome to the forum. :D :D

Make sure to look at the top of any page is the 'how 'to's." Will give you some good ideas.

Your pictures show a total mess.
Do what AZ gl1800 said to do.

If you find the stator is bad, put a poor boy alternator on it.

After you clear all the gremlins out, you're riding this bike down the road you will be a very happy biker.

Post piscs as you go along.

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Haha, yeah, I'm eager to get it back in shape now, and I find myself in a pretty good financial position to be able to sink the necessary $$$ in it. :lol: I've always thought the 70's and 80's Wings were the best looking naked bikes, so that's what got me interested in the beginning, but having all these bags and fairings on hand... hard to resist the temptation to farkle it out.

But... function over form. I've gotta get this thing running before I get ahead of myself.

Does anyone have any idea what that thin black box is? Is has an unused-looking plug on the end, looks like something that would hook to a trailer maybe? If it's not original equipment, Imma just cut it off. It makes the battery a VERY tight fit.

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My first thought was trailer converter. 5 to 4 wire.

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dingdong wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 8:13 am
My first thought was trailer converter. 5 to 4 wire.
Or alarm, maybe?

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The unused plug on the end definitely looks like a 4-wire trailer plug, and it says Wesbar on it, which appears to be a brand that deals with trailer lights. I pulled all that mess out and exposed a decent amount of the wiring. Only 4 wires were damaged with the tap splices, so my plan is to go ahead and clip them, then solder them back. I'll prolly slip a bit of shrink wrap over them while they're cut, then seal them up tight after the solder. I really hate electrical tape, so gooey.

After clearing out the extra wires, the gas tank fit nicely back in place (I had it out for a quick paint touchup), the battery box has plenty of room, and the remaining wires actually reach where they're supposed to without stretching like before. Feels like a win. 8-)

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Hey hey, on the upside, looks like a previous owner somewhere along the way already soldered the 3 yellow wires.

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dingdong wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 8:13 am
My first thought was trailer converter. 5 to 4 wire.
Agreed.

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Re: Wiring fiasco: behold the chaos! (help!)

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HeavyArmor wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 10:24 pm
Hey hey, on the upside, looks like a previous owner somewhere along the way already soldered the 3 yellow wires.
Test the stator while you have it apart.



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